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    I don’t find them dishonest and at least one mod is certainly aware of the controversy surrounding them - they’ve commented on this article themselves.

    Nearly all the articles they post are factually interesting - they may be uncomfortable to think about (and politics is heavy shit so feel free not to engage) but they’re news. This isn’t right wing propaganda but it is a lot more centrist than what you’ll see on NBC or CNN - but that camp of the media was absolutely flabbergasted when Hillary lost to Trump (electorally).

    I’d prefer to keep seeing stories from this poster so I don’t get blindsided.

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      Everyone on the left that is reasonably informed is aware of the danger. Trump could plunge the US into a fascist dictatorship. As a result, we are all vigilant on trying to avoid it. But guys like return2ozma are trying to muddy the waters as much as possible.

      So be careful with this line of thinking. Same goes for mods who tolerate him. History of such characters tells us that sooner or later, return2ozma will say something outrageous, like making statements blatantly in favor of overt fascism or whatever. Eventually, the mods will have to respond or face a crisis.

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        Oh, we’re all aware. But here’s the thing, they aren’t breaking the rules and the sources they are posting are all above board.

        We get it, the demo of Politics currently is VERY pro Biden, but when major news orgs like Newsweek and NBC are putting out negative press like this, it needs to be concerning to everyone.

        Burying their posts does a dis-service to the community by removing a contrarian opinion.

        Now, if they were posting links to Fox, or OANN, or, I don’t know, is Breitbart even a thing anymore? I’d remove that shit with a quickness and I’m pretty sure they KNOW that, which is why their links come from reputable sources.

        So long as it’s not written by the usual batshit crazy types like convicted fraud Dinesh D’Souza, we’re good.

        https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/newyork/news/press-releases/dinesh-dsouza-sentenced-in-manhattan-federal-court-to-five-years-of-probation-for-campaign-finance-fraud

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          The demo is focused on being anti-fascist. Biden just happens to be the main line of defense, if not the only one. Hence the sensitivity to those that only seem to attack Biden.

          Anyways, if these people aren’t going to be banned, then I will say this: Everyone should block every users that seems like a troll on this topic. And the same goes for any communities that seem “off” on this issue. And for problematic instances, demand your local instance defederate them entirely. Hopefully, decentralized social media will be able to avoid the disasters that happened in centralized social media.

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            The demo is focused on being anti-fascist. Biden just happens to be the main line of defense, if not the only one. Hence the sensitivity to those that only seem to attack Biden.

            The anti-fascists sure get upset when people say that Biden should stop supporting genocide.

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              It’s pretty obvious you have no desire other than to enable the far right on the topic.

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                Like so.

                You can’t defend Biden’s support for genocide, and you don’t want him to stop supporting it, so you attack anyone who says he should stop.

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                I disagree. It’s pretty obvious that you want to live in a bubble and you’re free to do so… but this community benefits from these articles. I’ve commented previously that OP may indeed be a troll… but whether they are or not they post reputable sourced articles that add to our discussions.

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                  Then you think like Elon Musk, who thinks we should have “both sides” of the issue, even when the other side is just extremism or foreign actors. We know from history that this doesn’t work. The community will inevitably end up being simply not worth it, and nearly everyone leaves.

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                    Then you think like Elon Musk, who thinks we should have “both sides” of the issue, even when the other side is just extremism or foreign actors.

                    And you think like Donald Trump, who sees valid criticism as disloyalty that must be harshly punished.

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        The goal of this sub is not to boost a candidate we as mods prefer to another. The reality is a lot of people have a lot of views I dislike, my role is not to suppress them.

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          There are limits to that type of thinking. As someone that is very familiar with what happened at Reddit, Twitter, even Digg before them, you are absolutely playing with fire here.

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            Yes, the limits are defined in the rules, which we try to enforce to the best of our abilities.