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      Is it possible that minimum wage could go down in this system? I love that it’s tied to a metric taking all of the politics and guess work out of any increases.

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        It’s been a while since I’ve looked at the language of the bill itself, but I believe it can only go up. The language on the site trends that way too.

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          Makes sense, there isn’t really a thing such as deflation. Pretty sure the last time it happened we had a recession so bad we called it a depression

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            I’m far from an economist, who would likely argue that wages should go down in certain times, but I think the political argument would be that nobody wants to be in power when wages go down, and we would expect that if wages were kept as is, you should expect compensating inflation to eventually catch up to that. Again, complete layperson here, so take that with a grain of salt.

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              Modern inflation is roughly a myth used in fear mongering propaganda and by apologists to excuse abusive behaviors. I’m not saying that there is no inflation, it exists and functions as an economic principal, but what is called inflation is decoupled entirely from the academic definition. Under academic inflation, a business who did not change prices should see a reduction in overall value, and price increases should even out to a neutral state where the value remains constant. If you ever hear “inflation” being used to excuse a price increase or a shrinkflation behavior and the company starts boasting about how much profit they are makeing or they start executing stock buybacks or give larger bonuses to executives, they are lying. Inflation had nothing to do with it. Also, if inflation is really the cause, when deflation occurs, prices should reduce to maintain the valuation, but again, it rarely if ever does.

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    $15.40, Washington at $16.28 and California at roughly $16

    “Roughly $16”? Is there something beyond cents that makes California’s new minimum wage hard to state clearly?

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      Certain counties have different minimum wages. So it’s difficult to give a hard number for the state. But they’re all in the neighborhood of $16

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        Sure, but what is the minimum? Do counties get to undercut the state minimum wage? If so, what good is the state minimum wage? There is some minimum.

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          It varies by county and also by profession. $16 is bare minimum, counties can’t go lower. Most counties are $16 and change, some as high as $19. Specifications for higher minimums are made in some counties for hotel workers and businesses on hotel grounds. https://www.pacificpayrollgroup.com/blog/california-state-local-minimum-wage/

          https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/minimum_wage.htm

          The minimum wage in California, effective January 1, 2024, is $16.00/hour for all employers. Fast Food Restaurant employers, effective April 1, 2024, and Healthcare Facility employers, effective June 1, 2024, will have a higher minimum wage. Starting April 1, 2024, all “fast food restaurant employees” who are covered by the new law must be paid at least $20.00 per hour.

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      It applies to only certain jobs. There’s some variance in CAs minimum wage depending on if you’re a tipped server, fast food worker, or something else.

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    Meanwhile Idaho right next door is still at the federal $7.25 minimum wage. How Idaho border town min wage jobs stay staffed I have no idea.

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      Probably employs the same people Donald Trump is calling animals and wants kicked out of the country, or worse. And when they succeed those towns are going to crumble.

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      When wages go up, so does rent.

      You’re not actually make more money. Your landlords are.

      Edit: Sad this gets downvoted, but it’s a testament to how most people are proud to be useful idiots these days.

      They just can’t see the bigger picture, lol.

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        That’s not how supply and demand work at all. Otherwise why would median monthly rent in Spokane, Washington be $1395 while median rent in Coeur d’Alene across the border in Idaho is $1800, given that the minimum wage is more than double in the former compared to the latter?

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    I hope economists follow this up. The Chicago school theory states that this should help only minimally and at worst increases unemployment which leads to all kinds of bad things.