• Varyk
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    9 months ago

    I like this idea of trauma being the driving force, although I would argue wording is relevant here and lean toward the phrase “pearl-clutching” myself.

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      9 months ago

      Porqué no las dos?

      People are complicated things capable of many motivations for single actions and yet also single motivations behind many actions.

      I’m just pointing out that we do need to consider more that the current ruling generation has significant mental health hangups that their own intolerance of such issues has seen fit to attempt to impose on us as generational trauma.

      We need to understand more that ours isn’t a movement to just make things better, it’s to break the cycle before it makes things even worse, and then to build something better.

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        9 months ago

        Because the idea of trauma implies an unearned sense of victimhood to a very small group of elites that doesn’t make a lot of sense in this historical or international context.

        Cuba agreeing to Russian missile sites didn’t seem to scar any other nearby countries for two generations.

        I don’t see why we should bestow the Americans with a special sense of victimhood.

        I do agree that anybody of an older generation probably has more mental hangups than the younger generation, and I think the younger generation is breaking that cycle by going to therapy while the older generation refuses to acknowledge or take responsibility for their mental health even though they have the capacity and resources to.

        Empathy is helpful to a point, but you have to recognize that point.

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          9 months ago

          “didn’t seem to scar any other countries nearby for two generations”

          Because the doom bringing missiles weren’t pointed at them.

          I will naturally be less traumatized witnessing a hostage situation than the actual person who has a gun pointed at their head will be, that does not negate their being traumatized.

          Also, small ruling elite, there’s over 70 million of them at present. You keep trying to ignore the whole “generational experience” part of what I’m describing.

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            You make too many tenuous subjective assumptions to address directly with too many tractable goal posts to avoid.

            I specifically addressed your “generational experience” concern.

            "I do agree that anybody of an older generation probably has more mental hangups than the younger generation and I think the younger generation is breaking that cycle by going to therapy while the older generation refuses to acknowledge or take responsibility for their mental health even though they have the capacity and resources to.

            Empathy is helpful to a point, but you have to recognize that point."