Tariq Kenney-Shawa, Al-Shabaka’s U.S. policy fellow, said: “This is among the worst footage I’ve seen. Not only were these boys clearly unarmed and present no threat whatsoever, but they were struck multiple times even after stumbling/crawling away. There is no way they could have been considered combatants. This is unreal.”

Assal Rad, an author with a Ph.D. in Middle East history, said: “Have we ever seen so many war crimes take place right before our eyes? Any country still providing weapons and aid to Israel is complicit in these crimes.”

[Warning: the article contains a footage whose content may distress users.]

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    Just remember there are 4 groups involved, not 2. You’ve got the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people. You also have Hamas and the Zionist dominated Israeli government.

    As far as I am concerned, 90% of the blame falls on the Zionists. They have constantly broken agreements and goaded the Palestinian people. This led to the rise of Hamas, it was the only group willing to really stand up to the Israeli government.

    The Israeli Zionists are working hard to conflate issues with them with issues with Israel in general and antisemitism in general. Don’t play into their hands on that.

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      Five groups: don’t forget the British/UN, who fucked up the handling of Mandatory Palestine in the first place.

      Frankly, I don’t think partitioning the Jews and Muslims into separate states was ever going to work and the British should’ve forced them to deal with each other in a single secular state instead.

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          I still don’t understand this.

          “We fucked so we are gonna give you someone else’s land”

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            Zionism predates the holocaust by several decades. The plan was always to colonize an area of the middle east. The founders of the ideology wished to do so to escape persecution in Europe, and determined that enacting violence on the native population of those regions was acceptable to achieve the end goal.

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        who fucked up the handling of Mandatory Palestine in the first place.

        The British didn’t fuck up. It was done exactly as intended and designed by the Zionist movement to give the Israel the strategic leverage to occupy more and more land after the initial partitioning.

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        That was also a problem, but before that they should’ve never let Zionists into Palestine or helped them in their settler colonialism nonsense.

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      For sure. Nevertheless it is the state of Israel carrying out the dirty work, rather than a bunch of rogue Zionists doing it by themselves.

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        Agreed. The state of Israel is thoroughly in the hands of the Zionist elements.

        My point is that the options and views of the people aren’t always well reflected in their government. A lot of countries have the same problem (US and UK, definitely!). It’s human nature to band together, when attacked from the outside. Focusing attacks on the culpable entity helps a lot in correcting that.

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          I mean your point is true in general but Israel just has that many genocidal maniacs. Just look how much support the war has, even though they want Natanyahu out.

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            Much of that is the effect of propaganda. Once it becomes “us Vs them” a lot of logical thinking goes out the window. The first step to countering it is to stop feeding into it.

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              I guess so, but what I meant is that this isn’t a case of people being misrepresented by their government. The government is following the majority (which is growing, by the way) position of “let’s genocide the Palestinians for Lebensraum”, setting aside why that’s the minority position. This mess won’t end with Netanyahu and his ilk leaving.