• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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      The amount of people who have commented to you with completely incorrect reasons for why you only do compressions is something else. They’re all getting up voted, too.

      But anyhow, for all of them: Single person cpr is non stop compressions at 100 to 120 bpm, non stop.

      Two person cpr is the same rate, but two breaths every 30 compressions (2 every 15 for an infant).

      Single person cpr is done that way now, because one person working by themselves can’t manage to effectively do both for very long at all before starting to screw up or move to slow, and the compressions are most important. It basically takes to long to stop, move up towards the head, tilt the head back, open the mouth, give two appropriate breaths while looking for chest rise, then reposition and go back to compressions.

      Trust me when I say that you’ll be wore the heck out if you have to do 120 compressions a minute, almost hard enough to tear ribs from cartilage for more than a few minutes on your own. Adding in the breaths just isn’t something that has been shown to pay off.

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        I have to do CPR training once per year, and almost every time they’ve changed the recommendations. I don’t even remember the current recommendations now.

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            My instructors have been from Region Skåne the last few years, maybe they’ve been taught different things.

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                Yes, Swedish. Also, for unrelated reasons I reacted a bit triggered in my previous reply and my canadian girlfriend said that I was being an arrogant european, and I’m sorry about that.

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          I got certified 6 months ago. They still (in the US) recommend 2 breaths every 30 compressions. For 2 people, one person manages the AED, and the other does CPR and you switch every 2 cycles, or whenever one person is too tired to continue.

          Point is moot, you probably don’t have enough mass, or lung volume to compress the chest and inflate the lungs on a giraffe.

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      (Iirc) It’s actually reccommended not to do mouth-to-mouth because you’ll probably do more damage than help.

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        I think it’s not so much harm as it is not as effective as the compressions. When I took CPR the irradiated many times that compression is the place to be when performing CPR.

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        It is easy for you to over inflate someone’s lungs when you are doing cpr. Especially if you are larger than them.

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        Just got my certificate for first aid training and this is not true. It has changed a few times but atm mouth to mouth IS recommended. But if you can only do one then stick to compressions.

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        Depends on the situation. Coughing/choking/asphyxiating: no do not do mouth. Chest compressions and back blows. No consciousness and no heart beat: chest compressions and rescue breathes.

        Of course do not do anything you are not trained in. However, if no one else is, your even if your cert has lapsed, good Samaritan laws are pretty lenient

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      From what I understand, chest compressions move the lungs enough to equate to shallow breathing (as long as the airway is clear)

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        It’s because there’s still enough oxygen in the blood to keep the brain alive for quite a while, so long as you can keep moving different blood to the brain. The brain is what kills you and what needs the most oxygen, so just cycling the blood that’s there will keep it from dying for quite a while.

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      I wouldn’t even know where to do the compressions on a giraffe. Call for a zoo employee is the best answer I can come up with.