Damn. They are making it more and more likely the FSB let it happen or were behind it the whole time. They are forcing this narrative hard, lol.
What about ISIS admitting it, even sending a body cam from the attackers.
It reminds me of the Onion: https://youtu.be/Q_OIXfkXEj0
Admitting it*
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
Same tactic
Or something from their own playbook https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings
Of course it does. Not that it was a false flag necessarily, but it was obvious that an attack like this would be used to increase pressure in the war either way IMO.
Never let a good tragedy go to waste
Pretty much what I feel about it. It’s still to early to tell what exactly this tragedy is, though I’m not surprised that it’s being used by the Kremlin.
I spent an hour today trying to find a real source for this quote, often misattributed to Churchill. And failed. Found some sources saying it predates Churchill, but no direct references. Seems an adage that is quite old though.
I’ve always heard it attributed (in a slightly different form) to Rahm Emmanuel, e.g. :
Never let a good crisis go to waste
All you need to know in order to know that Ukraine was not responsible is Ukraine outright stating that they are not responsible.
Because if they were responsible, they’d be telling everyone in no uncertain terms that Moscow was not safe from Ukrainian reprisals and this was just a warning.
One thing Ukraine has shown so far, is they aren’t stupid. The last thing they would do anyway is attack civilians.
Damnit i should be putting money on these things. Its all so predictable its almost funny (its not)
Putin must be furious that so many russians were killed and wounded and they didn’t even try to take a village.
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The whole bit about the perpetrators fleeing to the Ukrainian border I actually kinda believe.
Not because ukraine was involved but its got to be the only border anyone can get through at the moment within easy distance from moscow.
Everyone else has shut their borders
Edit: yes I know its a war zone yes I know its monitored. I also believe that you can never fully secure a land border there will always be holes AND the scum who shoot up a concert hall are not exactly at the top of the IQ range when it comes to escape plans.
Nah, I don’t buy this story at all. Their car had Belarussian plates and that border is much closer and still open. I’d even argue that the UKR/RUS border is the worst place to cross with checkpoints, mines and drones everywhere. They would’ve been safer hiding out in a random village somewhere.
Fleeing to Belarus might as well mean staying in Russia
Of course we will never know the truth I’m sure they will have unhappy accidents next to windows
Assuming they (ISIS) have active members on the other side, and a corridor established, fleeing into Ukraine would be probably significantly safer - assuming Russian and Ukrainian internal security services aren’t sharing intelligence and otherwise cooperating while they’re engaged in a hot conflict.
Don’t be that dumb.
You can’t cross a warzone, especially as a third party. If the Russians won’t shoot them (they would) the Ukrainians would.
It has shit to do with Ukraine, it’s just the typical Russia cop out, same mo as trump, just lie straight against all evidence. Repeat it enough and as long as your own base believes it, nothing else matters
Do you realize how vast that geography is, and that civilians travel through it daily?
Also, they had just gunned down hundreds of civilians, their motivation to leave Russian controlled territory, including Belaruse, was probably pretty high on their hierarchy of needs. Escaping into a country that Russia is at war with, seems like a safer option that sticking around anywhere with an FSB or ICRF field office.
I said nothing about Ukrainian involvement, or complicity, as I haven’t seen any evidence to support that, nor do I believe they would be.
So, take your own advice and don’t be that dumb.
Crossing a warzone with both sides being trigger happy, covering the whole region with trenches, checkpoints, mines, drones and other troops. Yeah, totally logical choice.
Eeehh, you do understand that the border with Ukraine is a warzone wasteland where they’d first have to pass the actual russian army?
It makes the least sense of all
Why people trust Russia to even have captured the attackers? They probably just stopped someone driving towards Ukraine and “these are the guys, pack them up”
Source: Ukraine’s Center for Countering Disinformation
Lol, trustworthy
The attack doesn’t fit their MO. A concert hall filled with people? Ukrainians drop bombs with drones on depots.
I’m also positive that there are actual recordings of the news network within that timeframe stipulated in the video and that something completely different was going on at the time - i.e it’s not hard to disprove.
So the burden of proof is on you, kiddo, tho I bet you’ll ignore it and go back to edging.
