• the post of tom joad
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    233 months ago

    Don’t ever go in to an Internet argument expecting to see someone change their minds, especially for something like this.

    Best you can hope for is you plant some tools in their gardens for them to work with next time theyre presented with a pile of bullshit

    • TurtleJoe
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      73 months ago

      The goal shouldn’t be to change minds, but instead to make people see that you aren’t crazy, and that you make some good points, even if they don’t agree with your overall message. Make which good points and they may start to come over to your side.

  • @[email protected]
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    233 months ago

    You don’t understand, we need to kill unarmed people walking down a road with a drone strike in order to save the hostages. Don’t worry, we made sure we got’em all.

  • @winterayars
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    133 months ago

    People really are super indoctrinated.

    • @[email protected]
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      193 months ago

      My doctor uses terms like “acute encephalopathy”, damn their medical school indoctrination.

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        Clearly medical knowledge acquired through critical study and evidence is different and more objective than political opinions.

        • @[email protected]
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          The point is it’s not just an unsubstantiated opinion, there is a long history of political science, involving ‘critical study and evidence’. Terms like imperialist and neocolonialism aren’t buzzwords like ‘woke’, they have distinct definitions.

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            As you say, such characterizations are a matter of opinion. That’s quite unlike medical knowledge which is established by objective, not subjective, evidence. Generally I hear such accusations leveled at credible, mainstream sources that don’t fit the narrative of those on the far left.

            • @[email protected]
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              103 months ago

              They aren’t a matter of opinion though, there are defining characteristics accepted by a historied scholarly community that correspond with these words. There are ranges of perspectives as is common in any social science, so it is viewed as a ‘softer’ science compared to physics or chemistry but it is a science no less.

              It may be common for criticial leftists to use these sort of terms flippantly, but that doesn’t remove their meaning or usefulness in the larger discourse.

    • @Socsa
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      63 months ago

      Am I out of touch?

      No, it is the United Nations Commission on Human Rights which is wrong.

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        The road goes both ways.

        “When you point a finger at someone, three fingers are pointing back at you” -African proverb

        • @[email protected]
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          113 months ago

          You’re not explaining anything. How does understanding neocolonialism and imperialism equate to being indoctrinated?

        • @[email protected]
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          53 months ago

          Why does the road go both ways? If you point at a fish, and call it a fish, is it because you’re also indoctrinated?

    • @[email protected]
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      53 months ago

      If anything it’s the opposite. Propaganda implies your only getting one side of the issue, so the less words or concepts you know the more likely you are to have been propagandized.