A council has apologised after parents were offered a choice of class photos with or without children with complex needs in them.

Parents at Aboyne Primary complained after being sent a link from a photography company offering them alternative pictures.

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    None of those sentences are remotely equivalent if you actually substitute. They’re nonsensical, even.

    Well if you want to make it an optional occasion we could make an optional cake?

    oh no, those are my surplus plates for guests only?

    and I made an extra extraneous cupcake just in case?

    also I think you misread me, I was saying it’s not special if a plant needs sunlight

    You were the one equivocating those words.

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      It’s easy to be disingenuous to make yourself sound right, for instance, if I was to be deliberately obtuse I could read your reply as:

      Less than one from over there grammatical constructions equal distant same upon thou certainly switch. Such exists jabberwocky, divisible by two.

      Which doesn’t make any sense - yeah, because I was an asshole about it.

      My original point is clear, easy to grasp and understandable and you’re just trying to derail to score some minor point.

      If it makes you feel better- yes if you interpret words wrong they sound wrong. Congrats, you win the internet debate.

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          can you explain what you mean? I shared my experience of why the argument was formed from my experience in education and community communications.

          I volunteer for two arts organizations and I work for a tech org - one of which I sit on the board for - who work (at least partially) with young, disabled and/or vulnerable people, and/or have to check communications against best practice.

          I have at times been physically long term disabled (although right now I consider myself able bodied), my wife is long term disabled, and I have previously worked with arts organizations focused around hearing loss, sight loss and mobility, and prior to that I was a curriculum organizer for a school district with a focus on engaging those with learning disabilities more in the classroom.

          Obviously, the disability community is not a monolith and with any nomenclature (see: differently abled, wheelchair-user debates) there are people on both sides of the argument who do and don’t have disabilities.

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            That’s a whole lot of irrelevant stuff ya got there.

            Keep pretending you can’t understand the other commenters who calmly and clearly explained why what you said is silly, I think it’s funny to watch

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              it doesn’t matter what random internet commenters think, it matters that communities are engaged and supported and learning environments for young people are as accessible as possible. You could give me a million downvotes and flame me to hell — that’s the reality.

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                  what am I deliberately not understanding?

                  Granted- I am completely baffled at the incredibly strong response I’ve gotten. I was just trying to be helpful to lend context. As I said at the end of the other comment chain - I was just providing context of what’s happening out there, I don’t take it personally at all if people don’t like it, because it’s extremely unlikely any of my interlocutors here work in provisioning for disabilities (and even more unlikely in Scotland!)

                  But that’s not me deliberately being obtuse - I genuinely don’t get what there is to be angry about!

                  I think it’s an interesting conversation and im a bit disappointed it got derailed into “The dictionary defines…”

                  Still, no hard feelings and I hope you have a good evening.

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            I think it’s hilarious that someone arguing that saying “special needs” is offensive is repeatedly calling people “disabled.” Most people consider “disabled” very offensive, since it implies that those people aren’t able to do things. They are able to, just differently.

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              no? they dont?

              “differently abled” was mentioned in another reply - and alongside that and conversations about people-first vs ability-first language have pretty much run their course about 5 years ago and have primarily been rejected by mainstream usage, but instead focus has shifted to self-representation akin to pronoun usage.