• taladar
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    I feel what is missing is the larger debate what kind of defense we actually want, in particular with regards to the EU. What do we want our military to be in a few years. The ‘how do we get there’ part should come after that.

      • taladar
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        8 months ago

        The EU can, by definition, afford more than any individual member can. Obviously defense would need to be handled by a separate budget but uncoordinated defense strategies for every member are certainly worse.

        • eleitl@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          2% of GDP is about 20% of the annual budget, which is not sustainable these days. 3% is ludicrous.

          • taladar
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            7 months ago

            Not sure what you are trying to say and how it relates to whether EU member states all do their own uncoordinated thing with their money or pool that very same money to do something coordinated on the EU level for defense.

            • eleitl@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              7 months ago

              2% of GDP is a minimum ask for spending for NATO members. It looks small, but 2% of GDP is 20% of the annual budget which is not elastic, unless you consider the bulk which is social spending omittable. The general public will soon convince you it’s not.

              Coordinated anything doesn’t work because modern wars are about infrastructure and logistics. Hence the 2% per member scaling.