• TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I have a family member that is a teacher. She gets 2 vacation days a year. The school argues it’s fair because they get summers off.

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      8 months ago

      Unless they are getting paid over the summer, it’s not time off.

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        8 months ago

        Most teachers get paid over the summer. Some districts allow you to get paid just during the weeks you work, but most spread the paychecks out over the year.

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          Another day on the internet where I as a European am horrified what Americans put up with. Here in germany teaching is one of the best paid profession and of course they get paid during holidays.

          In Finland even more so: the social status of teachers there is higher than doctors and lawyers. And they are constantly topping international comparisons of education systems.

          How did you guys not start a revolution yet?!!?

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          8 months ago

          My wife is a teacher.

          The problem with “summer holidays” is that you ultimately need to prep for your new classes, so you’re starting before the kids get in. Alongside this, going on holiday is very expensive, since holiday prices are jacked up when the kids are out of school.

          It’s a very stressful job with few perks. With that being said, in the UK the pay isn’t awful if you make it to a good level. It’s still arguably low for the hours they put in.

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          They aren’t being paid for summer though. Most teachers have a daily rate of pay for each work day. They then take that and divide it by 12 and pay the teachers once a month.

          The paychecks received in June and July are for work done earlier in the year that are delayed so that teachers can budget easier and so the district can earn some interest on it.

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          No they don’t, at least not in Texas. Here they get paid for the school year. Then they have the option to CHOOSE to have their pay spread out throughout the year. But unless they are teaching summer school, which is additional pay, they are not paid for the summer.

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          8 months ago

          Where I’m at, the teacher can opt in to take some of thwir salary and put it aside automatically to continue to receive a salary during the summer, most of my teachers growing up had another job during that time.

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          Right, but that’s not the same as getting paid over summer. All you’re doing is deferring some of your current paycheck until then. I quit teaching in June and “got paid” through the end of August. Not because they are paying a teacher who quit, but because that was money I had already earned, and they were just hanging on to it for me.

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          It might depend on the school district, but my family has worked for 3 different ones across a couple states, and they would not get paid monthly or anything over the summer. First check for them would come in September even, and we start school in mid to late August around here.

          IIRC they would get a larger sum at the end of the school year to hold them over til the fall. I vaguely recall my step mom talking about how every year there would be a teacher who budgets poorly and forgets the first paycheck isn’t until September.

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          No, they get consistent paychecks by taking a chunk from each so that you get paid over breaks.

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        8 months ago

        Teachers work during vacations. They need to prepare the next school year. Instead of using this to fight for more vacation for everyone you choose to use it as an argument to wish for less for teachers.

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          2 days off during the school year is insane, but teachers don’t really work during summer vacation. If the school picks a new book for their class then there’s work. They’re really just required to show up a couple weeks before school starts, at least in my state.

          My step mom and her whole family were teachers (5 total). Ranging from kindergarten to high school. I don’t think any of them had as little as 2 days off allowed per school year, but I imagine some districts could be that shitty.

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          Are you joking? They ‘work’ about 2 weeks before students show up.

          Prepare what for the next school year? They follow a curriculum that is laid out for them and it doesn’t change drastically from year to year.

          I genuinely believe you are just going to say whatever you think will make you fit in with the crowd without even realizing it.