• PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com
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    8 months ago

    No.

    They have to embody the ideals they hate towards another group.

    Look, it’s fine. I get that it’s hard to understand. That’s part of the appeal of the original article, where it redirects you back to the historical meaning of the swastika and insists that it’s meaning is fixed.

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      8 months ago

      No true scottsman, I get it. Ambushing police officers and murdering them doesn’t count as hate, ambushing black nantionalists and murdering them doesn’t count as hate, pouring boiling water on a person doesn’t count as hate.

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        8 months ago

        No, all of that definitely counts as hate.

        It doesn’t count as black supremacist hate. So, yeah “no true scottsman”, but the entire argument hinges on what a nazi/white supremacist is. It’s not a fallacy in this case. Because there’s a difference between hate generally and a specific kind of hate.

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          8 months ago

          Are you one of those liberals that thinks black people can’t be racists.

          Ambushing white police officers certainly sounds racists, black nantionalism was part of the black panthers that’s certainly a racists movement.

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            8 months ago

            You have to have power to be racist. It’s like newspeak. You change the definition of words to hit your agenda.

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              8 months ago

              I’ve always wanted to ask a liberal about that. Would Hitler at the end of the war be racists? He didn’t have any power. Can a skin head in prison be racists? Can white people be racists in South Africa, Mexico?

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                8 months ago

                It’s such a stupid twist of the language. Racism is racism. While we will always have racism, the government should not be teaching any race is inferior or superior like they do in dei. Skin color is the least interesting thing about a person in my opinion and it’s the most important thing to democrats. Just like when they pushed for slavery, they like to classify people in boxes