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      9 months ago

      The problem with your analysis is who was targeted. Isereal Is doing bad things and a Jewish temple in Pennsylvania was targeted.

      If the black Panthers committed a bunch of crimes would it be permissible to put a burning cross at a church/mosque that supported the black panther movement?

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        Anti-semitism runs strong with the left. They’ll jump through hoops to justify killing Jews. They ignore why Israeli has to police Gaza and the West Bank. They call Jews, the indigenous population colonizers. That’s like calling Indians colonizers.

        When you remember the Nazi used the democrats to form their racial laws. It all makes sense.

        The answer from the left is simply to genocide the Jews. The Jews shouldn’t defend themselves.

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          I figure the reason peeps won’t reply is because he knows putting a burning cross in front of a church is a terrible thing but doesn’t want to admit swastikas on temples is just as bad.

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              The black Panthers were involved in shootouts/turf wars with the black nantionalists, they kidnapped and tortured people, pouring boiling water on a member for 3 days before shooting him and dumping him in a swamp. Had female members savagely beat to keep them in line. Ambushed police officers, traffic narcotics…

              Does that meet your criteria where you would condone someone going full klansman and putting burning crosses at churches and mosques that supported the black Panthers?

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                  No true scottsman, I get it. Ambushing police officers and murdering them doesn’t count as hate, ambushing black nantionalists and murdering them doesn’t count as hate, pouring boiling water on a person doesn’t count as hate.

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            Both are bad. The left doesn’t want admit the Palestinians are trying to kills Israelis. Israel is defending themselves. They can’t explain why Gaza and the West Bank are even policed by Israel. Could it be the Arabs tried to erase Israel?

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      Recognizing that Israel is committing genocide and that narrative kinda just

      The October was genocide as well. Until you recognize Hamas is trying to genocide the Jews, you just don’t have credibility.

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          And the Palestinians are Hamas and support Hamas.

          Remember when they showed the dead German girl. Who went to save her or tell them to stop? Nobody. They cheered.

          As a group they are working to genocide the Jewish people.

          So don’t be shocked when Israel comes it to stop the group trying to kill them. Don’t be shocked when they monitor everything that comes into Gaza when they use those weapons to attack Israel.

          Why do you think the world is turning a blind eye to what’s going on? They know Israel is trying to stop a threat again the Jewish people.

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              Israel hasn’t really lost any support. Which country had said they’d use force to stop them? Nobody. Not a single country has issued a use of force to stop them.

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                  When someone does it, we can have that discussion.

                  Most Israel hate is nothing more than thinly veiled anti-semitism. When you call the native people colonizers, you play your hand openly.

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    Anyone who puts a swastika on a synagogue is absolute scum in my opinion, no matter if it was supposed to be an ironic commentary or even a condemnation of how Israel has become the very thing that tried to destroy them.

    But this… Coming to the conclusion that the left are nazis is about the wrongest possible conclusion you could arrive at.

    It seems like it’s only possible to believe this when you don’t know what these words mean. Or don’t want to know what these words mean.

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      It’s pretty obvious that people here don’t know what those words mean. Or don’t want to. Communists, democrats and nazis are not all the same thing.

      My main reason for posting here is to let anyone reading this know that putting a swastika on a synagogue is never ok, it is in no way a legitimate protest or political act.

      Further, that somebody did this, -and some knuckle heads attempted to interpret it- is not legitimate proof that “the left are nazis.” This nonsensical argument is an attempt to demonize and discredit those who protest the killing of children. You don’t have to wish for the destruction of Israel to think that killing children - Israeli or palestinian children- is wrong.

      It is strange that to speak out against the deliberate starvation and killing of children is to be accused of antisemitism.

      It is strange that to point out the moral implications of collective punishment and indiscriminate bombing of civilian noncombatants is to be accused of supporting hamas.

      See this is what I hate. You do think I’m defending Hamas and Palestinian aggression despite me saying otherwise all the time. And then you defend Israel’s genocide like I’m arguing for violence, just Palestinian instead of Israeli.

      This is the dishonest and manipulative tactic of those who want to justify the thinking that for every wrongdoing of the enemy, a million more wrongs must be measured out in response. If you disagree, then you are accused of supporting the enemy. If you disagree with killing children, you are labeled a hamas-loving terrorist that wants to eradicate the nation of Israel. It is nonsense.

      This is nothing new. During the Vietnam war, people protesting the US military burning Vietnamese civilians, including children with napalm were called " disloyal." People protesting burning children alive were called “communists that hate America”.

      Does anyone really believe that burning Vietnamese children with napalm was a perfectly acceptable way for America to defend itself against communism?

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      But this… Coming to the conclusion that the left are nazis is about the wrongest possible conclusion you could arrive at

      Not it’s pretty obvious. It’s not an accident the Nazis based their policies on the democrats.

      Which side is asking for Israel to be destroyed? You know the homeland of the Jews?