An increasing number of Americans want Joe Biden to encourage Israel to stop military actions in Gaza; and Mr. Biden’s handling of the situation is now down to its lowest levels yet.

In the poll, conducted before Iran’s drone and missile attack on Israel, there wasn’t much clamor among the U.S. public for U.S. military action against Iran, were Iran to strike Israel. More would instead have the U.S. support Israel’s next actions.

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    Biden has been encouraging Israel to show restraint from the beginning. He has set conditions on arms delivered. He is slow-walking arms deliveries. He is also getting strong criticism for not helping Israel enough.

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      Biden bypassed the need for Congressional approval to make sure Israel got weapons ASAP. Two weeks ago he arranged to send them billions in fighter jets and over 1,800 2,000lb bombs. There are stockpiles of US arms flagged for US use that are inside Israel that Biden has allowed Israel to pull from. “Officially it’s US equipment for US use,” a former senior Pentagon official said, “but on the other hand, in an emergency, who’s to say we’re not going to give them the keys to the warehouses?”

      The US is also using loopholes to keep over 100 arms sales under the radar, including thousands of bombs. “This doesn’t just seem like an attempt to avoid technical compliance with US arms export law, it’s an extremely troubling way to avoid transparency and accountability on a high-profile issue,” Ari Tolany, director of the security assistance monitor at the Centre for International Policy thinktank, said" and added “They’re very much borrowing from the Trump playbook to dodge congressional oversight”.

      No matter your stance on what Biden should be doing, why do you call that “slow-walking arms deliveries”? Seems like you’re trying to rewrite the history of how strongly and swiftly Biden has supported Israel - aka doing election season damage control regardless of evidence.

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        Biden is going to further jeopardize his reelection chances just so arms manufacturers can profit more off genocide.

        Say what you want about the capitalist class, but they certainly have class solidarity.

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            There’s no equivalent existing funds or contracts and Republicans keep blocking it because Trump wants to help his buddy Putin in exchange for favors

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            I agree with you, but likely because it could escalate with russia and russia has nukes and aren’t poor brown people who “don’t matter”.

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                Except every time Ukraine attempted to join NATO, Russia attacks them. A nation at war is ineligible for NATO admission. It’s no accident. Putin does not want to share a border with a NATO ally.

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                  They don’t need to be in NATO for us to store weapons there. We have plenty of bases in non NATO countries. We’ve even had bases in countries the Russians invaded. (Georgia, 2008)

                  But also, NATO doesn’t actually have that as a hard rule. There’s been debate about it and NATO Members are wary of such a member pulling everyone into a war right away, but there’s nothing stopping them from doing it.

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              We don’t have a base full of munitions in Ukraine

              No, Ukraine just sits right next to the largest military logistics machine in human history on it’s western border.

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          Biden is going to further jeopardize his reelection chances

          We’ve all seen this movie - this is the part where the big bad humiliates the (supposed) “good cop,” and now “good cop” is going to hand over to “bad cop.”

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      He didn’t need to set conditions, the Leahy Law already does that. His conditions were a smoke screen so Israel could self certify they aren’t doing anything and people would be mollified. The law already bans weapons exports to countries with credible accusations of human rights abuses. And we’ve been past that point for months now.

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      Dude you’re wrong in so many different directions that I don’t even know where to begin.

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      Strange that you can just completely lie and get upvoted. Biden has done everything Netanyahu asked him to and there are no conditions on arms deliveries.

      Joe Biden himself has said he unconditionally supports israel.

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          That’s simple; because I don’t.

          Opposing israel doesn’t actually require you to be a pathological liar. That’s only when people defend israel.

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          You do it all the time. I don’t see why you suddenly have a problem with it.

          Quite an accusation. Have specific proof to make it credible? Because at first glance it seems like an incredibly childish response. As you’ve written it it’s functionally just “NO YOU!” With evidence it could be salvaged into a valid point poorly made. Although it should be noted you don’t even attempt to deal with the substance of their argument, opting instead to just insult them.

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              My mod log? I’ve been here two months and never had a post removed by a mod period. You’re flat-out lying at this point and I dare you to prove otherwise. He said he accused the wrong person (me) and to me that’s completely fair because I certainly make mistakes.

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                  Fair enough, that’s an understandable mistake. Notice I still got downvoted though.

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                  Maybe consider backing up your accusations when you get aggressive before you get offended when you’re called out on a lack of proof. Burden of proof is on the accuser. Edit: Nice edit to delete half of the above comment and make it appear as if this isn’t responding to your specific insult.

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          As his history shows, Linkerbaan has one interest: talk shit about the US and its president. I know what I think of single/wedge-issue posters who queue flood dozens articles a week like it’s their job.

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      Biden has been encouraging Israel to show restraint from the beginning.

      He has done nothing of the sort.

      He has set conditions on arms delivered. He is slow-walking arms deliveries.

      What hogwash. He has circumvented congress to sell Netanyahu weapons with no strings attached. Weapons he knew would be used to commit genocide.

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      3.8 million pounds of bombs in only one of five arm sales bypassing congress is definitely restraint and slow walking.