• PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Here’s the thing. You said a “jackdaw is a crow.” Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that. As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing. If you’re saying “crow family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens. So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people “call the black ones crows?” Let’s get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too. Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that’s not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you’d call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don’t. It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?

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      7 months ago

      That will never not be funny. Guy nuked his whole fame status in that one moment.

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          The short of it is that there was a Reddit poweruser named Unidan who had a background in bird science. Very popular, very often upvoted, tons of karma.

          Unfortunately he was found to be vote manipulating on sockpuppets to elevate his content and downvote others, and IIRC this infamous jackdaw copypasta is the one that blew his cover.

        • Acernum@lemmy.world
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          An infromative biologist redditor named unidan made the comment above. The majority of reddit loved him. Whenever he posted a comment, reddit would literally get on their knees to jerk and suck him off with upvotes. That and the usual tone of his comments made me dislike him. He had a hissy fit with another redditor over a crows/jackdaws. He revealed that he made alts to downvote other redditors and upvote himself, even if the other redditor was correct. His downfall was very satisfying lol

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            Yeah some of his posts were just flat wrong too, but it was like shouting against a hurricane with how popular he was.

            He knew his crow stuff, no doubt, but people thought he was like Reddit’s biologist who was an expert on every subfield which of course no one is. But he didn’t seem to want to admit that and instead posted some nonsense.

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      7 months ago

      I’ve yet to see anything like this emerge from Lemmy itself; no real platform-wide infamous episode. I wonder what the first Lemmy-based episode of Whang! is going to be?

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      My wife when we first moved to Wyoming: “What a pretty and dainty bird. What is it?”

      Me: That’s a Magpie.

      Magpie: *bathes in blood as it feasts on the flesh of a dead elk*

      My wife:

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        Magpies are the bird equivalent of that person everyone thinks is hot as long as they don’t say anything

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          Fuck, maybe that’s why my wife calls me a magpie, but also tells me to shut up sometimes. (I like shiny things)

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        You picked a Hitchcock frame as a meme and didn’t go for one from Birds. Shame!

        Edit

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        Most mountain resorts of BC have them, they’ll eat from your hand if you hold it out flat for them.

        If they’re feeling greedy though they’ll also just take unoffered food as you’re trying to eat it.

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    Magpies are the friendliest birds for people but I almost feel bad about it because they’re dicks to other birds.

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    Steller’s Jay fits in with the family and makes sure the blue jay doesn’t get lonely

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      That strain of swooping death appears every year around September during Australian magpie swoopy Boi season.

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        Australian magpies are not corvids. Not closely related to any of these birds, or to Eurasian magpies.

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      Note, this picture is inverted for personality.

      Blue jays are very stupid and very aggressive.

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        The stellar jays are dumb, but have learned to not be dixks around the other songbirds where I live.

        They do a decent red tailed hawk cry imitation that’s wild.

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        Aye, the first time a blue jay tore the head off of a smaller bird in its nest was a real head turner for me.