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    7 months ago

    Good lord why is this so hard.

    Y’all want closer or further from target? Make your choice.

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          7 months ago

          Awww shucks, most of the progressives got rat fucked by the party!

          Guess we get more “centrism” in a desperate appeal to people who actually don’t mind fascism that much, now that they think about it

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            7 months ago

            That’s just the nature of democracy mate.

            With two parties they will always align themselves just to the left and right of whatever “center” happens to be.

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              you’re not talking about democracy, you’re talking about the specific system used in the US

              most countries in europe do not have a 2-party system, here in sweden we have one party (the social democrats) with 33% of votes and then like 7 other parties with decreasing numbers of votes, that have to come together with a majority of the votes to form a government.

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                7 months ago

                Yes, but all 8 parties will strategically position themselves around the overton window to gather as many votes as possible.

                If you have 2 parties as in the US then obviously it’s one party either side.

                I’m Australian BTW. 3 major parties, many small ones.

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          I’m aware, and I’ve spoken up to defend Biden on this. In general I’ve been positively surprised by Biden’s voting record. I think a lot of people may not have went into the Biden presidency with the expectations I did. I expected fucking nothing. I voted for “not a fascist” in 2020. I was pissed he won the primaries, especially after how clear it was that he was the “fine whatever” candidate with a cop running mate.

          But also as a country we’re headed in the right direction on climate but we need to increase our acceleration. Biden keeps doing that and I’m glad, and I know the house is a deadlocked mess and the legislature is as important as the president this year. But, we need to decarbonize and we need to do it 20 years ago, or now at the latest. None of this natural gas bullshit. It’s gonna suck. Of fucking course it’s going to suck. We put it off for 50 years.

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      7 months ago

      With our current voting system, this is all we can do. Vote Democrat and hope for gradual change. Sadly, our planet is more than “gradually” fucked.

      Until the voting system changes (hah), we can push the Democrats to do better, and they’ll surely listen… I’m voting Biden, but I’m sure as hell bitter about the situation.

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      7 months ago

      These people really think “more evil” or “less evil” is a complex dilemma with no solution. Those are the terms they chose.

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      7 months ago

      My target is the dissolving of national borders, the elimination of nation-states, the breakdown of the petro-dollar, and collective ownership of all resources.

      Who gets me closer to that?

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        7 months ago

        Probably not the overt fascist who wants borders made into physical barriers, fracking in Yellowstone, and is a lifelong criminal landlord.

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          7 months ago

          Yes, yes, harm reduction. Very good. Here is a cookie: 🍪

          I’ve been doing that since ska was cool. It would be fun to do something different maybe?