• ShadowCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    collecting vast amount of data ? facebook does that too and instagram and google and who knows what else

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        7 months ago

        crazy i wonder why the infinity racists amerikkkans decided to start with the platform that is mildly associated with china. surely it has nothing to do with their with the fact that they are most racists people on earth.

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        7 months ago

        even IF it was true why would u give a shit about a foreign government having ur data, then assholes that are gonna swat u or kidnap u into an unlabeled van arent gonna be foreign they dont fucking care its gonna be ur government doing that shit.

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          7 months ago

          The US government doesn’t want an adversary government to have the data of its citizens (because of varios reasons, including mass manipulation for example). They would of course have no issue with having that data themselves though (also because then they would be more in control over how the data is handled).

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            7 months ago

            Whats being questioned isnt why the us gov and the corpos that own it would want to ban tiktok that much is self evident, the question is why any one would give a fuck let alone bother to celebrate it.

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      7 months ago

      Yes. But the US can control US based companies, and create laws regarding how that data is used. They can’t control a chineese one.

      Do you understand how the US government might think it’s a problem that foreign countries get access to every step their citizens take?

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        7 months ago

        But the US can control US based companies, and create laws regarding how that data is used

        Does that matter if they don’t create said laws - since they’re equally interested in their citizens data as facebook, google, etc. are?

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          7 months ago

          It does matter. Because the US can do it if they decide to. They have significant power over companies based in their country.

          They do not have significant power over companies NOT based in their country.

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              7 months ago

              That’s not what that means.

              The fact that a company who wants to operate in the US has to follow US guidelines is obvious. But doesn’t mean the US government has significant power over them if they’re not based in the US.

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        7 months ago

        us gov IS controlled by us corps they banned tiktok to get rid of competition. with the ever green excuse in amerikkkan politics of appealing to racism

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          7 months ago

          Sure buddy. And 9/11 was an inside job and airplanes are spreading chem-trails to control the population and weather too.

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              7 months ago

              Serving and being controlled are two different things. Make up your mind. Which is is it?

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                  7 months ago

                  No. You can serve without being controlled. And you can be controlled without serving.

                  The waitress is serving me but they’re not being controlled. It’s something they choose to do.

                  And you can be controlled in what you say and so, without serving. E.g. a prisoner.

                  So no. They’re not the same.

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                    7 months ago

                    that is meaningless semantics. both words have multiple meanings, when i said politicians serve corporations i meant that they are ultimately subservient to them because they get paid by them and their live style is contingent on this servitude and that is a system of control in this context both words refer to the same thing.

                    in the example of the waitress she is being controlled when u call them or tell them to get u a certain food u are controlling their actions control doesn’t have to be absolute and it doent have to be forced.

                    a better example would be a social worker who helps people aka serves them but does not respond to them and are not controlled by the people they serve.

                    in the example of a prisoner there is control but no servitude sure, but it is trivial to think of an example where there is control and servitude like a serf, u know cuz world have different meaning and all.