• starman2112
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    8 months ago

    It’s not misandry to be wary around men. Rape culture is a thing. It is not equivalent to racism.

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      8 months ago

      It is misandry to generalize and discriminate against men because “all men are dangerous scumbags” or something.

      Besides, it doesn’t help anyone, really, and fosters extra anxieties and aggression.

      We absolutely need cultural shift that would help everyone (both women and men) to expose rapists and any sort of harassment. We need to eliminate any cultural acceptability of those actions that remain.

      We do not need to propagate hate based on gender/sex.

      Absolute majority of men are perfectly normal human beings, like absolute majority of black people aren’t criminals, or absolute majority of gays are not child molesters or whatever the stereotypes were. Besides, all of those traits are immutable.

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        8 months ago

        It’s a good thing literally no one actually thinks that all men are dangerous scumbags

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            8 months ago

            People might say that on the internet, but how many of those people have male SOs, or dads, or brothers? Could they be engaging in hyperbole?

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              8 months ago

              Some women go as far as to reject any heterosexual relationships despite being attracted to men for precisely this reason, and they often come from bad families, so relationship with men in the family is also negative.

              Sure, most women are less radical, but even for them this constant hyperbole often sends anxiety levels to the moon, makes them unhealthily cautious, obsessed, in some cases paranoid.

              Many women who have never been abused or threatened (at least from what they say) in any serious way can develop fear and loathing of men simply by leaning into this narrative.

              And this seriously messes with very real relationships.

              And it’s not a case of “women stupid”, no. Men can and do absolutely fall for the similar traps, growing stereotypes about women and leaning into them. It’s a universal human trait, and the one we have to address.

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        8 months ago

        People use arguments to justify everything. Sometimes they’re right, sometimes they’re wrong. This is a stupid point.

        and rape culture isn’t really a thing, it’s not a culture… it’s a problem but that’s the wrong word.

        If you can’t be bothered to so much as type “what is rape culture” into google, I’m done talking to you

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            8 months ago

            in most cultures, rape is seen as pretty bad.

            Yes, literally everyone agrees that rape is bad. The problem is that in our culture, we have a bad habit of rationalizing what we do as not really rape. How many times have you heard someone ask what a woman was wearing, or why she was walking home at night instead of driving, or why she was alone at a bar, or why she didn’t fight back, or why she didn’t report sexual violence as soon as it happened? Why does nearly every woman have at least one experience with sexual violence? Why did we elect a guy who openly admitted to sexual assault as president? It’s almost like we have a culture around enabling and forgiving rape, in large part by rationalizing it as “not really” rape. I wonder if there’s a word for a culture that enables sexual violence.

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                8 months ago

                the way he said it was framed as joking… and a lot of people accepted it as just a joke (it turned out he was actually bragging…)

                YOU HAVE JUST DESCRIBED RAPE CULTURE.