I kind of get it though.
People with Bay Area tech salaries could often afford $40-$60 or more for a car. Up until a few years ago, Teslas were kind of the most practical thing if you could afford an EV with good range. There were not a lot of other long range / faster charging EVs on the market.
These says I’m not seeing as many Teslas with dealer plates. There are other long range / fast charge options out there. People are often buying other stuff if they’re buying their first EV. Kias, Fords, Rivians, Polestars. Telsa isn’t the only game in town anymore.
Tesla isn’t the only game in town
And unlike tesla, those other companies haven’t horrific build quality issues. Or stuck accelerator pedals
The real trick is to look at the carpool stickers. Ours are expired but they’re still on the car; they’re the pinkish purplish ones. I see a lot of expired red ones too.
I mean do people buy teslas to express “style?”
Whenever I see a Tesla, I just assume they love Elon Musk. I am unapologetic about this stance.
No, I doubt that
At least camrys were good cars.
It’s oddly common vehicle even where I live and they all look the same, just different color. At a quick glance it’s hard to even tell Model S, 3 and Y from eachother.
There’s a Tesla plant that employed many people and they used to get a good discount. The infrastructure is also much better for owning an electric car in the bay area so people bought early when there were fewer options and less complaints.
This also makes it way more affordable as there is a really robust inventory of used Tesla cars as well so it’s more like $10k instead of $40k in many instances.
My brother in-law worked at that factory. It’s the old NUMMI plant in Fremont. Elon probably calls it gigadouche factory 69 or something now. They absolutely did not get a discount. If you bought one at full price, they did gave you FSD free in later years. He was there for like 8 years until last year.
There is absolutely nothing stylish about any Tesla that’s ever been created.
You can accurately say the CybeR TruCk is unique, but wow, is it ugly. I’d honestly rather drive a PT Cruiser.
Polestar or DeLorean if you wanna actually be unique.
The DMC Alpha 5 looks amazing
It’s the same unoriginal purchasing down here in OC.
The end of the day, they had the best range and charging specs for quite a while. The competition arguably didn’t catch up until after the Model 3 and Y had been out for a while.
It’s not unoriginality. It was a lack of good alternatives. That’s why Telsa is hurting now. The real competition finally started shipping.
Arguably the competition is not even close to catching up in charging networks …… oops
Yeah, non Telsa networks are notoriously loaded with broken chargers and or chargers that are way under spec and charge super slow.
Sorry, was trying to be snarky about someone laying off the entire charger division. Obviously we don’t know the financials but it really seems like throwing away one of the biggest actual differentiators, in favor of a moonshot where it’s hard to see how they’ll deliver
My favorite is when they put on an aero kit with canards, a bumper and a wing. Like, good job, now you’ve made it less efficient and it’s still the same car as everyone else around you.
I just bought a used model 3 this week. I went to a supercharger station and there were 10 other teslas there and most of them were white, the rest were black, there may have been one or two gray ones there. Almost all of them were Xs or Ys. Mine is blue so I don’t feel too bad. I’ve been contemplating getting a wrap, maybe green, but it’s hard for me to justify spending that much money just to be a little different aesthetically.
I hate Elon but there’s some great engineering that went into the Teslas, except maybe the Cybertruck. There really aren’t any other electric cars that are quite as good. I like the idea of a Kia EV6 or a Hyundai Ioniq 5 and they look great, but surprisingly the EV6 didn’t have nearly as much head room as the model 3, and I’m 6’4". I look forward to the day when Tesla ditches Elon.
IMO the day Tesla ditches Elon is the day unstoppable decline starts within the company. People get complacent and stop innovating. Elon has stopped this from happening so many times now.
I don’t personally agree with everything Elon says but you can’t deny his ability to push the boundaries and get stuff done.
I can’t deny his ability to push boundaries and get stuff done. Wouldn’t say that’s a good thing as the boundaries he pushes are more often labor laws than innovation.
The fact is that good leadership is more stable than this. What Tesla really should want is closer to the way Boeing did pre merger like 30+ years ago where they see themselves as an engineering firm with a product rather than a product company. They’ve clearly done a lot of great stuff regarding batteries and such, but they’re terrible at auto manufacturing, and they’re held both up and down by their vision of themselves as a tech company. Their fsd is cool and also going to get them in trouble with the dot and nhtsa. Move fast and break things was sketchy for Facebook and fatal for an automotive company.
Steve Jobs was widely known as a huge asshole aswell but I think it’s pretty undeniable that he was also a genious. I think the same applies to Elon. He pretty much single handedly popularized electric vehicles and the innovation he’s pushing on rocket technology and satellite internet is quite amazing especially considering it’s all coming from a single man. I wish he’d get off social media and focus on what matters. I still hope that he succeeds though, because the world benefits from it.
It seems quite common that exceptional people like him more often than not come with their not so positive personality quirks and he’s no exception here.
This is my new favorite copypasta
Maybe one day instead of just jokes and downvotes someone actually tells me what I’m wrong about.
It’s kind of like when you meet a flat earther… We’ve all met folks like you, and at this point none of us want to waste our time.
There’s so much obvious evidence to the contrary of what you’re suggesting here. “Genius” must be one of the most abused terms of the 21st century.
Ad-hominem seems to be the most common argument aganst my views on this indeed.
It could be the use of single man twice in the same paragraph that is a bit irking. Obviously there are teams of people actually designing and executing what these companies deliver. There’s certainly something to what Musk decides to manage that proves successful.
My time on Reddit taught me not to expect explanations after receiving downvotes. It wasn’t me though 🤷♂️
Edit: case in point
It’s like those Livestrong wristbands for people with money
