• luciferofastora@lemmy.zip
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    6 months ago

    I’d be surprised if opponents of genocide would vote Republican instead, given how some GOP reps seem to be opposing even the half-measure of delaying arms shipments.

    A two party state where you choose between “fucked up” and “less fucked up, but constantly ceding ground” just does a poor job of accurately representing the opinions of people favouring actual progress, so they’re doing what they can to pull the Overton Window their way.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      This is what perpetuates the insanity in US. When your choices are Hitler and 99% Hitler, then the vote is meaningless. A lot of people will just choose not to participate in this circus.

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        6 months ago

        If Biden is 99% Hitler than I’m 99% Jesus and it’s rude for you to argue with me.

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            6 months ago

            Not a supporter of genocide. I just realize there’s a lot more going on than just that

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              6 months ago

              If you support Biden then you are supporting a genocide that US is currently involved in. Period. The fact that you can’t even admit this just further underscores your utter lack of morality and intellectual honesty.

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                6 months ago

                Ok, but if I don’t support Biden, the other guy is going to continue doing the genocide. Maybe even at a worse pace. So what’s the answer than? Voting on every other decision

                Genocide sucks, but America dug this hole for generations. It’s not all on Biden

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                  6 months ago

                  Change comes from outside the ballot box. Vote for Biden, sure, but join and support the ongoing protests forcing his hand currently. Historically, meaningful change has come from collective action.

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                  6 months ago

                  Your actions are what matter, and if you’re going to vote for the guy who is conducting a genocide then you are complicit. No amount of hand wringing will change that.

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                    6 months ago

                    Your actions are what matter

                    Not voting is also an action. And if your refusal to vote allows someone to take power that will not only continue the genocide, but also start more genocides, then you are complicit. No amount of hand wringing will change that.

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        6 months ago

        If your choices are Hitler and 99% Hitler, you still do what you can to stop 100% Hitler. Less bad is less bad.

        Nobody cares about your smug sense of superiority when 100% Hitler is in charge and you proudly announce “I did nothing to stop this, other than try to encourage other people to also do nothing to stop this.”

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            6 months ago

            You mean the logic of “I’m not going to do anything and neither should anyone else”?

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                6 months ago

                Considering I specifically suggested doing something is better than doing nothing, I’m going to go ahead and guess that listening to what other people are saying isn’t a strength of yours.

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                  6 months ago

                  Doing something is what the students protesting the genocide are currently doing, not voting for the guy doing the genocide. The fact that you don’t understand these basic things is truly phenomenal.

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                    6 months ago

                    I understand that the people protesting are doing something. This is the first time you’ve actually advocated for an action.

                    People are fully capable of both protesting and voting to keep someone worse from doing worse things. The fact that you don’t understand these basic things is truly phenomenal.

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        6 months ago

        This is pretty rich coming from a guy who unironically defends Stalin and Mao for “doing what needed to be done.”

        Edit - I mean there you have it. If I explain the meme I’ll get banned but I think any reasonable person can appreciate the whiplash.