TIL about another way of voting—does it have an official name. My gut reaction is that while multiple votes would usually result in the same thing as rank choice votes, there is less preference information in your method. I suspect that it might end up electing less politically extreme candidates than ranked choice voting, but I feel like I could be wrong about that.
I do like the simplicity of your multiple votes method. I think it is easy to explain to people who maybe are off-put by ranked voting or other slightly more complex ways.
I think I would prefer ranked, but I would take pretty much anything to improve our system.
It doesn’t sound like an awful idea, but what if I don’t want my vote going to a candidate unless my first choice(s) don’t have a chance of being elected?
Like I always vote for eco or worker party here, but would absolutely put liberals as my third choice if only because I’d rather them over the conservatives.
But I really really don’t want liberals getting my vote unless I’m out of better options.
As a one-off election, you wouldn’t be able to. But in the real world, we get elections every few years, so you can see how many people approve of the eco or worker party. If it’s high enough that they can potentially take over the liberals, then you can safely drop your approval for them in the next election.
You’d have to scrap the presidential system then and move to a parliamentary system, since the presidential election is inherently fptp.
Also be aware that with a pure proportional system you’ll lose greatly in government stability, and I’m telling you as an Italian. The average duration of our governments is like on one point something years
For that system without popilar vote you’d have to do ranked choice, where the rank is in order of most to least votes. Each state votes all its electors for its top choice first, and then the ranked process goes from there.
Always thinking of ways they can game the system. I’d imagine they would just flood the ballot with names and tell their base the 50 or so people they would need to vote for.
What is your argument for this? Personally, my argument would be that its level of complication might be too much for a general election. Overall, though, it can be quite good. At the very least, it should be better than FPTP.
Just let people vote for as many candidates they want and choose the one or the ones that get the most votes.
What you are describing is a voting system called “approval voting”, which is actually quite good.
Ranked choice is stupid and not needed. Just let people vote for as many candidates they want and choose the one or the ones that get the most votes.
TIL about another way of voting—does it have an official name. My gut reaction is that while multiple votes would usually result in the same thing as rank choice votes, there is less preference information in your method. I suspect that it might end up electing less politically extreme candidates than ranked choice voting, but I feel like I could be wrong about that.
I do like the simplicity of your multiple votes method. I think it is easy to explain to people who maybe are off-put by ranked voting or other slightly more complex ways.
I think I would prefer ranked, but I would take pretty much anything to improve our system.
It doesn’t sound like an awful idea, but what if I don’t want my vote going to a candidate unless my first choice(s) don’t have a chance of being elected?
Like I always vote for eco or worker party here, but would absolutely put liberals as my third choice if only because I’d rather them over the conservatives.
But I really really don’t want liberals getting my vote unless I’m out of better options.
As a one-off election, you wouldn’t be able to. But in the real world, we get elections every few years, so you can see how many people approve of the eco or worker party. If it’s high enough that they can potentially take over the liberals, then you can safely drop your approval for them in the next election.
Sounds like they’re describing what we call “approval voting”
I agree.
The system relies on voters having unique opinions. There’s a lot that could go wring, but its still way better than winner takes all.
I refer you to this extremely informative and well-written article.
That’s just approval voting
You’d have to scrap the presidential system then and move to a parliamentary system, since the presidential election is inherently fptp.
Also be aware that with a pure proportional system you’ll lose greatly in government stability, and I’m telling you as an Italian. The average duration of our governments is like on one point something years
Its not porportional its winner is whoever got most votes.
So the same you have now minus the grand elector bullshit?
For that system without popilar vote you’d have to do ranked choice, where the rank is in order of most to least votes. Each state votes all its electors for its top choice first, and then the ranked process goes from there.
Always thinking of ways they can game the system. I’d imagine they would just flood the ballot with names and tell their base the 50 or so people they would need to vote for.
Yeah that’s another issue. You’d need a primary with a cap for the number of candidates who can win.
What is your argument for this? Personally, my argument would be that its level of complication might be too much for a general election. Overall, though, it can be quite good. At the very least, it should be better than FPTP.
What you are describing is a voting system called “approval voting”, which is actually quite good.