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    i mean stop working for these people

    don’t apply for their jobs, don’t buy their awful products, don’t support them in any way

    this is not the direction society needs to go

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      Some folks don’t know how to treat themselves kindly so they instead look for the biggest number and think it will bring happiness.

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      Must be difficult for people who worked at Tesla for years before Musk bought it.

      I’ve worked at my company for 10 years, I’d find it difficult to just leave straight away if some dickhead venture capitalist bought it and started fucking it up.

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    What a shit show. Musk is a fucking clown shoe. Gifted with wealth and great opportunities, but wastes it on petty bullshit like this.

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      Not quite. Tesla is just the vessel through which Musk enriches himself. Everyone is disposable in the end. The dumbest thing is that there’s still people who still thinks otherwise.

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    Now if only there existed a system that we could use in which the people actually doing the work could dictate the direction of a business instead of 1/3 to half of their lives being dominated by absolute tyrants.

    Just throwing out ideas.

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      but this isn’t REAL CAPITALISM it’s CRONY CAPITALISM. the solution is MORE CAPITALISM.

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    You’ve got a CEO who has a net worth of $200 billion and is demanding more massive bonuses to himself and at the same time he’s killing jobs.

    I can’t believe there’s people that want to invest in companies that behave this way.

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      As if it weren’t bad enough that people choose to invest in such companies, you have large numbers of people convinced that Musk is tech Jesus, come to save the world from all its problems with his superior intellect.

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      Reminder: The board of Directors at Tesla also want him to get paid, for some stupid reason.

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        Yes if it wasn’t clear enough yet, the “Board” of Tesla are less than worthless. The entire enterprise is going to go up in flames because of this complete idiot. And the nominal group of people who’s only purpose is to prevent that are cheering him on.

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        Aren’t they all family members and loyalists?

        Motherfucker nepotized a public company.

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    As mentioned in the article, now Tesla is scrambling to rehire them. I am curious how many will come back, how much of a premium they will want, and how many will stay long term. It makes sense to take the offer (especially if it comes with a better salary), wait for your former colleagues to find jobs, get some feedback from them about companies, and then jump ship.

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      If they wanted to rehire me, I would demand a golden parachute. No fucking way would I go back and risk it happening all over again.

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            For a guy who lost in court a payout of 50 Billions in compensation from Tesla, blocked by shareholders and a drop in value of Twitter’s acquisition of 20 Billions more, sounds like numbers on a screen, but these are really life changing amounts, even for him.

            So yes, he’s kinda finding out.

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              Sorta, but not really.

              Just cause numbers of worth that are literally unimaginable by most people have gone down but are still at levels that would set up 10k+ people for life easily?

              If he gets to the point of being worth as much as his average worker, then sure, he probably find out (still not to the level of his fuck around though).

              So long as he can live the same lifestyle, it doesn’t matter if he’s worth 5M or 5T, it’s all the same.

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                I see your point yes. At the same time a difference from the the richest man in the world to the second richest is only one place, but there’s no second place for the richest man, is just one.

                As of May 2024, Elon Musk’s net worth is approximately $194.6 billion, making him the second richest person in the world. Bernard Arnault, the chairman and CEO of LVMH, currently holds the title of the richest person with a net worth of $212.1 billion [❞] [❞] [❞]. This puts Musk about $17.5 billion behind Arnault.

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                  If going from richest to second richest is finding out after fucking around? Yeah no.

                  Unless it actually changes significantly this manchilds daily life, it’s not finding out(and I mean changes to more like any other human on earth, not changes from bragging about being rich on Twitter, to crying about not being richest on drumpfSocial).

                  I mean seriously. A worth of “only” 194,600,000,000? It’s almost like he could equally split that between 97,299 other people (2,000,000 each) and none of them would HAVE to work another day in their lives.

                  What the fuck have we done with society, when we have collectively decided that this person is worth 7,784,000 years (average 80yrs/person) and everyone else can go fuck themselves.

                  What does “excess” even mean?

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    I almost admire a guy who is so dedicated to not being crossed that he will nosedive his own company into the ground to avoid it.

    Almost.

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    Man if I were a competing EV company or charging network, now would be a really good time to get some of the best talent there is. The supercharger network is objectively good, and now the people who actually made it good are imminently hireable.

    Man sometimes I wish I could be as box of rocks stupid as musk and still make money.

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      Man if I were a competing EV company or charging network, now would be a really good time to get some of the best talent there is.

      This is one of the core problems. Besides Rivian there ARE NO other EV companies that are building their own charging network. And Rivian isn’t really doing massive rollouts of its “Adventure” charging network like Tesla is/was.

      The other companies running charging networks exclusively have different motivations and approaches. None of them are swimming in money needed to build out like Tesla Supercharging was. These charging only company’s only revenue stream is charging fees, which is not really much yet because EV penetration is still fairly low.

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        Agreed but a lot of charging networks really could hire some talent out of Tesla just to work on their UI and other uptime measures. Even if they don’t deploy more stations, just getting their existing stations running well would be such a coup. Once folks have the reliability of Tesla chargers at all other chargers, it’s really quite impressive how many chargers we have already.

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          No I agree with GP here. The way problem has always been they expected to do it on the cheap because of low profit percentage. It’s not just that they don’t know how to build a good ui or a reputable product: it’s that they never see the need to invest there. Why would that change now?

          I don’t know if Tesla superchargers are a profitable or close to it, but they clearly benefitted by Tesla being willing to spend enough to do the job right

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      now would be a really good time to get some of the best talent there is

      You’re assuming Tesla has been hiring the best rather than the cheapest. Musk’s stingy nature has been eroding quality at the company for years.

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    The devision chief should start their own supercharger company, with all the people under them. NACS is an open patent now, right? Turn it into a proper open standard, instead of “one company did this thing, then lobbied the government to force it in” Plus, would give more people more options, which is always good.

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    “This would be a terrible impulsive idea that loses us a shitload of money and talent for no benefit.”

    “I’ll show YOU a terrible impulsive et cetera!”

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    If the division chief had agreed to let go of some staff … instead hired a few janitors and fired all the janitors, that way he can say with clean hands he fired his workers.

    Instead of reading the room that ELongated Muskrat is a Billionaire Crybaby … just give him something that gets his object permanence something to stare at until the rattle pulls him into totally different direction.

    Now the division is all gone without even an afterthought.

    People who lead should know and keep their priorities straight and not get everyone fired on “principles”.

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      Yeah, fuck Janitors, definitely not people, just use them to make your job easier…

      I have a lot more respect for the leader who stood up to Muskrat and said no, than one who would do the bait and switch on some workers because it’s “easier”(because they don’t see a janitor as a real job/person deserving of the same respect)

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        Im sure you can work out some backdoor deals with janitors compared to mid-level or high-level workers. Hire and fire them but pay them well off-the-books. A leader who stands up to Muskrat better be another billionaire or millionaire ready with a startup company to absorb all the fired workers. A leader has to suck up to his boss so that his team doesnt suffer. Leader takes the bullets that are meant for his team.

        When there are terrible people in charge,work out a strategy that looks favourable to the top-level people, while making it better for your team. You take the responsibility for your actions but dont allow the consequences of your actions to hit your team.

        No one said a leader has an easy job.

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      Spite, not principles. He just wanted his 10% or whatever layoffs and everything else is him not wanting anyone to say no. Obviously we don’t know how it went down but a good leader should listen to the people they trust to do their jobs and protect their people. Some of that happened and some didn’t

      I’m actually afraid I may be in a similar boat. Head of engineering just got fired because he refused layoffs. Now we’re waiting for the other shoe to drop

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      Now the division is all gone without even an afterthought.

      Musk is upset that he can’t have a proprietary IP on charging stations. Biden’s national supercharger network plan precluded this possibility under it’s newest rules. That’s why Musk is dumping the department.

      His business model revolves around collecting rents on intangibles and a department can’t work if they can’t deliver that.

      Nothing Rebecca Tinucci said or did was going to change that.