It’s those connections I specifically want to sever. Because they’re usually connections to special interest groups, enemy nations, cults, etc.
Not only do I think elderly people shouldn’t be allowed to hold office, I don’t believe they should be allowed to vote. It has been conclusively proven that they vote “fuck you, got mine.” You should not have a say in a future you will not live to see.
I’m on the fence about this as I agree and disagree with what you’re saying. Not because the elderly do have a disproportionate amount of potential time to vote (with other possible complications that come with it), you’re right that many of them won’t see the true effects that their votes cause. Having said that…
I also feel that this is a slippery slope. It’s not a far leap to deny voting rights to one group of people and then extend the denial of rights to another group.
The Black community doesn’t really…
Native Americans don’t do…
This minority shouldn’t impact this majority because…
These are the very things that the Right Wing has spent years, and millions of dollars, promoting in bad faith. Essentially brainwashing far too many people into believing they are correct to hide behind racism and hate and “patriotism” if it means not allowing some group or person they don’t agree with to win, even if it hurts them.
Let older people vote. Restrict age and experience to mentor status - allowed to sit in and support revisions by guidance, not through official acts, and only if they have acted throughout their time in office for the good of the people within their station, and even then for X years, such as say two. That’s my compromise.
old people don’t have anything to do BUT vote, and bitch and moan, and most importantly to them, reminisce. Which means they won’t actually be paying attention to current events, because they think they already know everything and can’t understand new perspectives. My inlaws have members three generations older than me, and those fucking people - one of them said that she’d never bothered updating the opinions her parents gave her because “if they were good enough for them they’re good enough for me” - I mean, they’re literally living fossils, venerating the dead and having zero understanding of anything that’s happened since September 11, the last world event worth noticing in their view.
You couldn’t get three words into a discussion of some of the concerns of the modern world without their eyes glazing over. It’s not possible for them to “get it”.
“We can’t stop elderly people from voting because someone might try to stop black people from voting.” Reminds me of an argument I heard a Republican make: “If we don’t stop gay people from marrying, what’s to stop someone from marrying a dog, or a car?”
You know what I think people over 60 should do? Retire. Sleep in. Watch the weather channel. Indulge in hobbies. Babysit their grandchildren. Play shuffleboard or canasta or cribbage or Quake or whatever old people play with their friends. And sometimes answer “Dad, what should I do here?” You grew up, you learned, you served your time, now it’s time to rest and occasionally advise.
Instead, we’ve got a civilization built by cryptkeepers who know nothing but performative greed who have done nothing but erode the possibility of any kind of retirement. We’ve got a generation of septogenarians right now who won’t retire because they have no concept of themselves as conscious beings without their work, and their personalities are fucking poison. A generation of young people are cutting contact with their parents and grandparents as soon as practicable because of how hateful and terrible the television has made said geezers, so they’re worthless in their roles of teaching and advising.
We need to kill off the politically elderly so that we can fix the elderly at large.
It’s those connections I specifically want to sever. Because they’re usually connections to special interest groups, enemy nations, cults, etc.
Not only do I think elderly people shouldn’t be allowed to hold office, I don’t believe they should be allowed to vote. It has been conclusively proven that they vote “fuck you, got mine.” You should not have a say in a future you will not live to see.
I’m on the fence about this as I agree and disagree with what you’re saying. Not because the elderly do have a disproportionate amount of potential time to vote (with other possible complications that come with it), you’re right that many of them won’t see the true effects that their votes cause. Having said that…
I also feel that this is a slippery slope. It’s not a far leap to deny voting rights to one group of people and then extend the denial of rights to another group.
These are the very things that the Right Wing has spent years, and millions of dollars, promoting in bad faith. Essentially brainwashing far too many people into believing they are correct to hide behind racism and hate and “patriotism” if it means not allowing some group or person they don’t agree with to win, even if it hurts them.
Let older people vote. Restrict age and experience to mentor status - allowed to sit in and support revisions by guidance, not through official acts, and only if they have acted throughout their time in office for the good of the people within their station, and even then for X years, such as say two. That’s my compromise.
old people don’t have anything to do BUT vote, and bitch and moan, and most importantly to them, reminisce. Which means they won’t actually be paying attention to current events, because they think they already know everything and can’t understand new perspectives. My inlaws have members three generations older than me, and those fucking people - one of them said that she’d never bothered updating the opinions her parents gave her because “if they were good enough for them they’re good enough for me” - I mean, they’re literally living fossils, venerating the dead and having zero understanding of anything that’s happened since September 11, the last world event worth noticing in their view.
You couldn’t get three words into a discussion of some of the concerns of the modern world without their eyes glazing over. It’s not possible for them to “get it”.
“We can’t stop elderly people from voting because someone might try to stop black people from voting.” Reminds me of an argument I heard a Republican make: “If we don’t stop gay people from marrying, what’s to stop someone from marrying a dog, or a car?”
You know what I think people over 60 should do? Retire. Sleep in. Watch the weather channel. Indulge in hobbies. Babysit their grandchildren. Play shuffleboard or canasta or cribbage or Quake or whatever old people play with their friends. And sometimes answer “Dad, what should I do here?” You grew up, you learned, you served your time, now it’s time to rest and occasionally advise.
Instead, we’ve got a civilization built by cryptkeepers who know nothing but performative greed who have done nothing but erode the possibility of any kind of retirement. We’ve got a generation of septogenarians right now who won’t retire because they have no concept of themselves as conscious beings without their work, and their personalities are fucking poison. A generation of young people are cutting contact with their parents and grandparents as soon as practicable because of how hateful and terrible the television has made said geezers, so they’re worthless in their roles of teaching and advising.
We need to kill off the politically elderly so that we can fix the elderly at large.