• mozz
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    If we were planning to do anything about it, this would be relevant information, but as it is, it’s more or less like those air crash investigation videos where the plane starts saying “TERRAIN. PULL. UP.” and the pilots keep going with the turn they were doing, and you can watch the video and think, Jesus Christ what the fuck were they even thinking.

    Link to Extinction Rebellion if anyone wants to get involved in trying to at least mitigate the damage

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    From the article …

    Thwaites, which already contributes 4% to global sea level rise, holds enough ice to raise sea levels by more than 2 feet. But because it also acts as a natural dam to the surrounding ice in West Antarctica, scientists have estimated its complete collapse could ultimately lead to around 10 feet of sea level rise — a catastrophe for the world’s coastal communities.

    That’s a lot of beachfront and riverside properties that would end up going underwater.

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    • @[email protected]
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      People in FL complaining about not being able to get insurance, this is why. The whole state’s gonna be underwater.

      • @[email protected]
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        On one hand, this will fucking suck…however, no one will be able to argue that global warming isn’t real as this will be the very real consequences to ignoring climate change.

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          no one will be able to argue that global warming isn’t real

          There is no amount of catastrophic weather or other directly observable evidence that will ever make this statement true. There certainly should be, but the fact remains that many will deny climate change even as it destroys their lives or kills them. I don’t like it but that’s the world we live in.

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            From what I’ve read, there are a few things that change people’s beliefs. Fact is not one of them. What your in-group believes is a big factor. So if we could murder fox news, we’d probably do the world a lot of good.

            But the other thing that apparently can push people into reevaluating their beliefs? Horrific, personal, trauma. Someone who’s whole town was destroyed by climate change might be shaken up enough to rethink their world view. Maybe.

            You could also maybe trigger the effect by beating the living shit out of a climate change denier, because being dragged out of their coal-rolling truck and being beaten so badly they’ll never walk again would be traumatic.

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              But the other thing that apparently can push people into reevaluating their beliefs? Horrific, personal, trauma. Someone who’s whole town was destroyed by climate change might be shaken up enough to rethink their world view. Maybe.

              Your first point needs to happen first otherwise this scenario just gets spun into “stupid liberals want you to think it’s humans doing this, it’s just natural cycles the earth goes through. Look back millions of years and you’ll see a period where average temperatures were 90°! Do you want to let liberals charge you more for Beautiful Gasoline™ over a lie!?”

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            91 month ago

            Not entirely true in my anecdotal experience. Most of the original deniers I know personally now say that climate change is real, just that it’s not man-made and there’s nothing we can do about it. I remember around a few years ago I even convinced my boss that climate change is in fact real (he couldn’t come up with a valid reason to explain picture and video evidence), but he refuses to accept humans are causing it. It’s still equally frustrating, nonetheless.

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              I mean, is that functionally any different? They’re still going with their own “alternate facts” over listening to scientists. They’re still refusing to support politicians and/or policies that might give us a shot at avoiding the worst of the problem. If they’re still doing all the same shit then nothing has changed.

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                31 month ago

                Right, I was just pointing out that there are plenty who do believe in climate change, but are still missing/refusing to see the underlying cause and support reform.

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              I have a friend that claims climate change is not man made. He always talks about volcanos and ice ages. Does anyone know what evidence I can actually hand him to show him man’s contribution is the leading cause?

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                  Wow. The ‘Current Path’ was very optimistic. We are accelerating roughly twice as fast as was predicted here in 2016.

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                You can start by showing them that every mass extinction event earth has witness was the rapid climate change after massive volcanic eruptions spewed greenhouses gases… (including the dinosaurs, the asteroid was basically kicking them while they were already down)… and we’re doing the exact same thing at break neck speeds.

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            COVID anti-vaxers while dying from COVID still denying it’s real and still blabbing about masks taking away freedom and shit really opened my eyes.

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          You’re assuming these people have principles and integrity, but they don’t. They’ll just blame the government for allowing it to happen/not providing them enough assistance.

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              Not if you’re the one voting in the people who refuse to do anything about it and make every attempt to further the issue.

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          It also means most of Florida is going to be exported to other states. I don’t think anyone (including FL) wants that.

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          I too think that the people with real power will only really care if they are themselves affected.

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          Where does Florida Man ™️ go when his trailer is underwater? Is he now Georgia Man or Mississippi Man?

          This is a migration that I don’t think people want

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      Map indicating elevation levels throughout the state of Florida

      Looks like my property is gonna be on the new coast of Florida in a few years. I’m gonna be rich!

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      That’s 61 cm and 305 cm for like 95% of the world.

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      11 month ago

      Which means you can bet your ass they’ll start selling them to poor people soon enough.

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    One major concern here is that the additional moisture will increase the power of storms as well. A great analogy I heard from a climatologist was “this of ice as money in the bank. Once you take it out, it gets spent on weather.”

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    “Faster than predicted”

    Sounds like a laugh track to a black comedy, only it’s a guillotine blade hanging over humanity’s neck.

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    101 month ago

    Since I’ve done all I can personally do, I’m grabbing my popcorn and enjoying the show.

  • @gravitas_deficiency
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    Holy fuck this is very literally one of the major plot devices in Ministry for the Future that they have to figure out a way to stop.

    Pretty sure we’re not gonna stop it though.

    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.