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      Sanders is doing right now, exactly the right thing. Its the thing Biden should be doing but is seemingly incapable of. Its being on the right side of history as history is happening and not accepting some fatalistic inevitability about the future.

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        not accepting some fatalistic inevitability about the future.

        He is describing an inevitability; Socialism or Barbarism.

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          Considering what’s happening around us currently, I’ve started believing that it’s actually barbarism until socialism.

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        Heard on the news today that Biden said that it is not genocide in Gaza. He really wants to lose I guess.

        I voted, donated, and knocked on doors for Sanders. He should be our president not the fucking lesser evil Biden.

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          I’m still going to vote for Biden. He is wrong on the Gaza situation, though has made strides elsewhere.

          Unfortunately it is also either him or possibly THE Idiot Savant. Would prefer ol’ Bernie, even today.

          Literally today.

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            I voted for Biden once I will do again to keep Trump out. But after that I am done. Either progressive take control of the party by 2028 our this country can burn for all I care. Done with this bullshit.

            Wake me up when we are ready to riot.

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              Honestly? I agree. Biden will give us a few years to get our shit together. Though I hope there will be people who are able to pull others together for that exact reason.

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      He’d be rounding out his second term right now. He was clearly up to the task. I hope he remains in the Senate until he passes. He’s an exceptional person, who should be treated as such, like RBG.

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        He’s an exceptional person, who should be treated as such, like RBG.

        The close friend of Scalia’s who opposed worker’s rights, indigenous rights, and held up the constitutionality of solitary confinement? The one who prioritized her ego over not giving Trump an extra SCOTUS pick?

        I have my criticisms of Bernie, but I would never put him in that category.

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          I wasn’t aware of those votes. I’ll look into them. Thank you for pointing them out to me.

          Her strong stance against gender and sexual orientation discrimination, and support for undocumented people as well as people with disabilities is why I mentioned her as an advocate for the people.

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            She also stayed on too long even when others were begging her to retire because Hillary Clinton wanted to pick her replacement. And then…

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          Senate vacancies are voted in by citizens, but yes, RBG opened the doors for women and Amy Coney Barrett immediately began to close them all behind her.

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        I hope he remains in the Senate until he passes.

        I hope we get enough progressives in the Senate so that he can retire.

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        I’d prefer if he leaned more heavily into supporting upcoming socialist politicians throughout his state to help lead the next generation of leftist politicians into power.

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    I was very pleased to see the ICC interested in the arrests of both Netanyahu and Hamas leadership

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    I wonder how much of Biden’s outrage is because of support for Bibi, and how much of it is because the ICC could start issuing warrant for US presidents?

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      The US already has a law in place that stipulates that the president can use all means necessary, including military action, to release any US personnel that have been arrested by the ICC.

      They aren’t afraid that the ICC is going to issue a warrant for a US president. Because they can just park their aircraft carriers in the North Sea near The Hague beach and invade Dutch airspace. And what is the EU going to do in that case? US already has troops and equipment on EU soil.

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        While they can do so, that’s a very effective way to permanently destroy relations between the EU and the US. The US will be unable to effectively project power onto both Europe and the Middle East once the military bases in Europe are closed down in the aftermath. It will be the US’s biggest loss in soft power since its founding.

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        ICC arrest warrants are not about actually detaining people, Bibi won’t end up in the Hague either.

        The point is isolation. If the US president would get convicted, they wouldn’t be able to attend a G7 summit anymore for example.

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      100% the former. Biden supported the ICC until it started going after his pal. Now he just gave Putin a propaganda freebie.

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        The U.S. has an infamous history of obstructing the ICC otherwise the previous 3 president’s would be potentially facing war crimes charges.

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          The US and Israel are rogue states. The same as we like accusing Russia, Iran, and North Korea of being.

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        Now he just gave Putin a propaganda freebie.

        I’m not sure who this propaganda is supposed to appeal towards? The dividing lines between the old Cold War states have sharpened considerably. Biden and Putin can’t really do anything wrong, from within their own camps. Its always “Whataboutism” and “You people don’t understand what’s at stake” to dismiss the incoherent contradiction of their respective policies.

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          Biden gave ammo to the Russian propaganda when he questioned the legitimacy of the ICC arrest warrants and implicitly accused them of playing politics - which is basically Putin’s line. I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up with Putin being allowed to travel freely again.

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            Biden gave ammo to the Russian propaganda

            Who is being propagandized? Everyone’s already picked their side.

            I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up with Putin being allowed to travel freely again.

            I seriously doubt it, if for no other reason than any number of armed and extremely angry Ukrainian partisans are gunning for him everywhere he goes. But at some point, countries like South Africa, India, and Brazil are going to be asked to turn down diplomats from an enthusiastic new partner by British or American scald complaining about international norms.

            To quote the Kenyan Ambassador Dr Lubinda Haabazoka,

            Every time China visits we get a hospital, every time Britain visits we get a lecture.