At Mozilla, we work hard to make Firefox the best browser for you. That’s why we're always focused on building a browser that empowers you to choose your own path, that gives you the freedom to explore without worry or compromises. We’re excited to share more about the updates and improvements we ha...
    • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      19·
      6 months ago

      Four panel image sourced from the intro to the Powerpuff Girls cartoon. In Panel 1, which is mainly colored blue, the silhouette of a man pours sugar into a bowl. In Panel 2, colored green, the silhouette is adding what can be assumed to be salt. In Panel 3, colored pink, he is pouring flowers, hearts and sparkles into the bowl. He has a happy smile. Finally, in Panel 4, colored bright red, black goo from a broken jar is flowing into the bowl, as if an accident happened that broke the jar. For the first time, we can see the face of the man. He looks clearly distressed, and is backing down from the scene.

      to be faiiiiiiiir, the way they’re going about it is very reasonable. i’d rather have no AI but, if i had to have it, i’d rather have that than anything else.

      • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
        2·
        6 months ago

        The use case they mention (generating alt text for images in PDFs) is something that couldn’t work otherwise and, even if it isn’t perfect, can be a big help to people with visual impairments, while at the same time doesn’t get in the way of the users that don’t need it.

        If they keep focusing on these kinds of features instead of going fully Clippy like Google and Microsoft are doing, I think it’s fine.

        • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          1·
          6 months ago

          honestly, you’re right. I still worry that it could encourage an attitude of abled people not caring about alt text, because “oh well AI’s gonna do it anyway, who cares!”, but, really, abled people already don’t care about alt text, so…

          • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
            2·
            6 months ago

            In the specific case of PDF most users wouldn’t even know where to add an alt text. Depending on how you generate the PDF it might even be impossible. So I think Mozilla has the same concern as you, and that’s why they aren’t adding this to images in HTML (yet).

    • cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de
      19·
      6 months ago

      If AI object/scene recognition is done locally, wouldn’t it increase the memory footprint of the browser process. Also how many objects can it identify if its run on a modest 4-8 GB RAM system? One more question is would they ever introduce anonymised telemetry for these generations?

      • Vincent@feddit.nl
        10·
        6 months ago

        If it works anything like Firefox Translations does, the model is only downloaded on-demand, so it wouldn’t affect your browser usage if you don’t use the feature.

        • FaceDeer@fedia.io
          91·
          6 months ago

          The state of the art for small models is improving quite dramatically quite quickly. Microsoft just released the phi-3 model family under the MIT license, I haven’t played with them myself yet but the comments are very positive.

          Alternately, just turn that feature off.

      • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
        33·
        6 months ago

        If Firefox uses even more memory it’ll bend the memory-time continuum so much it becomes a memory singularity.

        The concept of memory ceases to exist at the boundary to the Firefox process. What happens beyond it is unknown, except that no matter how much memory you throw at it, none ever gets out.

  • ಠ_ಠ@infosec.pub
    24·
    6 months ago

    Tab Grouping, Vertical Tabs, and our handy Sidebar will help you stay organized no matter how many tabs you have open – whether it’s 7 or 7,500.

  • 1984@lemmy.today
    17·
    6 months ago

    I hate the corpo talk as usual but hope they can squeeze out a really good tab manager. Container tabs and proper adblock is the best thing Firefox has, and would be nice with a third Ace in their hand.

  • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
    12·
    6 months ago

    Could we have HDR support instead of AI? Does anyone even want all this AI stuff companies keep pushing?

    • BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info
      2·
      5 months ago

      For context, the part where they talk about AI:

      We are approaching the use of AI in Firefox – which many, many of you have been asking about – in the same way. We’re focused on giving you AI features that solve tangible problems, respect your privacy, and give you real choice.

      We’re looking at how we can use local, on-device AI models – i.e., more private – to enhance your browsing experience further. One feature we’re starting with next quarter is AI-generated alt-text for images inserted into PDFs, which makes it more accessible to visually impaired users and people with learning disabilities.

      I mean, this is not “slapping an LLM on top of the software and calling it AI”, it’s integrating it into the browser in usable ways.

      One usage of a local model is the local translation feature which was … kinda nice? Not having to go online to translate? Pretty cool right?

      This is similar here with the alt text, seems like a force for good?

      Feels like they’re fulfilling what they said in the first paragraph of the quote.

  • kbal@fedia.io
    2213·
    6 months ago

    • new tab wallpapers, streamlined menus: Eh, whatever.

    • vertical tabs, better settings UI: I guess it’s probably useful for someone if they do a good job.

    • AI-generated alt-text for images in PDFs: Oh fuck right off.

    • Customizable hotkeys: I can’t believe you’re still not doing it. Wasn’t it the number one requested thing on Mozilla Connect? Do it, Mozilla. It’s so easy, and so obviously needed. It would serve as a meaningful sign that you’ve become less user-hostile.

    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      36·
      6 months ago

      AI-generated alt-text for images in PDFs: Oh fuck right off.

      why so negative? this is actually great for accessibility, especially when the majority of people don’t care about alt text (especially in pdfs)

        • Ephera@lemmy.ml
          9·
          6 months ago

          Yeah, I was kind of taken aback by how genuinely useful this is. So much of this generative AI stuff is marketed for tasks where it is simply inadequate. But in this case, a text that’s 90% accurate is a massive improvement from there usually not being alt text at all.

      • kbal@fedia.io
        131·
        6 months ago

        True, my initial reaction was hasty. It took me a good twenty minutes to see why it was right. Mozilla should’ve spent a few more minutes thinking about it.

      • kbal@fedia.io
        310·
        6 months ago

        I kind of resent having a pdf editor in my web browser at all. Putting a giant LLM-based image classifier in there seems inadvisable even if it was going to do something more useful than suggest alt text for images you add to pdfs.

        Accessibility tools that can describe images, as well as pdf editing, are fine things for Mozilla to work on but they really shouldn’t be done as part of Firefox alone. Image describing has way more uses than just what’s found in the web browser, and should be a system-wide thing. There’s no point in each application having its own. Doing it only for things inserted into pdfs compounds the absurdity. If the accessibility APIs that exist can’t handle it, it’s time to propose a better one — and maybe go ahead and implement it on Linux. Solving the problem properly would be a more ambitious goal, but one that seems appropriate for an organization with the stature of Mozilla.

        • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          10·
          6 months ago

          I kind of resent having a pdf editor in my web browser at all.

          gonna assume it’s for the pdf reader, considering that’s where alt text in images is needed.

    • kbal@fedia.io
      7·
      6 months ago

      Auto-generated alt-text for all images on the web where it’s missing, and an AI that can reliably detect when it’s probably worth doing, or do it on request through some kind of api designed for accessibility tools, as an optional extension for people who need it: Now that would be more interesting.

    • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
      41·
      6 months ago

      Vertical tabs has quickly become the deal breaker feature for me personally, for any browser. I am on desktop, horizontal tabs are so senseless there in hindsight as most screens are wider than they are tall.

  • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al
    114·
    6 months ago

    So I read that line about it being things we requested and people are not requesting wallpaper stuff 😂

    It’s thousands for tab grouping and less than a hundred for wallpapers. Seems like when they tried to rebrand bookmarks as collections and were determined to push them.

  • Dagnet@lemmy.world
    81·
    6 months ago

    The moment Firefox adds back tab stacking, I’ll go back to it so fast my pc won’t even finish booting

  • sugar_in_your_tea
    3·
    6 months ago

    I’d really like container tabs to be a thing. It’s a UX nightmare, but I’d really like to keep social media crap at bay.

  • golden_zealot@lemmy.mlEnglish
    310·
    6 months ago

    Any browser which only offers an AI inclusive release, I won’t use.

    If any company that produces browsers really, truly, cared about their customer base, they would offer an AI release and a non-AI release.

    Edit: It’s unfortunate to see that we have reached a stage as consumers that even daring to suggest an option be provided results in such responses. Good luck to all of you when you decide you want an option when a business does something you don’t like with a product because clearly you’ll have no one interested in listening to you.

    • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al
      92·
      6 months ago

      At this point, AI is pretty much any line of code that the marketing team thinks sounds smart. It’s really not a hill worth dying on.