Liz Allen knows the shame of poverty. But it has taught her 'money is about luck, nothing else'
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For Pay Day, demographer and social researcher Dr Liz Allen shares the shame that comes with living in poverty, the secrets of survival, and how this experience "grants perspective that can never be bought".

This bit resonated.

It makes me so terribly sad that in a society such as ours the wealthy keep creating new means to harm the less lucky.

That aside, Alan Kholer has also opined in the past that our economics policy is based on disdain.

I know many will read my financial experiences and see failure. I haven’t failed; I succeeded when the odds were totally stacked against me. I made good what life threw at me. I survived … with my values intact.

I can only agree.

  • funkless_eck
    32·
    7 months ago

    You were scorning the mother for “wasting” money on having kids, but millionaires “waste” more money on their expenditure than having kids would do.

    Also, having 7 kids does not mean you can’t be a millionaire, as millionaires are statistically actually more likely to have more kids than average.

    Hatred of large families is largely manufactured by the media residue of hating on “Octomum” - a woman who had octuplets during the global recession of 2007-8 as a way of blaming the common folk for not having good sense (despite the fact it was a result of pure chance) and not because banks couldn’t stop themselves from doing multiple crimes every single day.

    Finally, Elon Musk has 11 kids.

      • funkless_eck
        23·
        7 months ago

        Having a disability is absolutely “luck” as is potentially having kids. No birth control is 100% effective.

          • funkless_eck
            22·
            7 months ago

            why is having kids wasting money, but a medical procedure such as abortion not a waste of money? what value is generated from the abortion?

            • 𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zoneEnglish
              31·
              7 months ago

              I feel like you’re arguing for the sake of arguing. Nothing you’re saying makes sense beyond being contrite.

              • funkless_eck
                21·
                7 months ago

                no I’m arguing against the eugenics-based thought-terminating cliche that “poor people are poor because they have children” which is a nonsense.

                • 𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zoneEnglish
                  31·
                  7 months ago

                  How is it nonsense? You have a certain earning potential. If you choose to have 7 children, you both limit your earning potential due to the time investment of breeding and the need to spread your available income over more dependants. This isn’t some class warfare shit. Rich people can afford to have more children because they’re rich. We don’t start on a level playing field. There are exceptions of course but they are exactly that - exceptions.