• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The question is, and as far as I can tell the article isn’t making it clear, is this because of increased numbers or just diffusion?

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      That’s a good question. Anecdotally, when the fight isn’t there, grass roots org tend to diffuse and diminish. I mean look at BLM and the networks that were present in 2020 versus 2021. Once Biden was in office and Trump wasn’t there as opposition, the movement practically evaporated. I’m not sure anecdotes are sufficient for these modern times however. I know that groups like Patriot Front have expressed difficulties recruiting. It also might be a “we didn’t look as carefully as we did previously” kind of monitoring bias.

      There are mutual aid groups that were doing extensive monitoring in 2019-2022. I couldn’t speak to whats happened, but I would generally tend to trust the numbers being put out without better information.

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      I’m totally guessing here. They probably changed the definition to include groups that had been previously exclude because those groups had previously disguised themselves as politically conservative or religious groups. Once the conservatives started saying the quiet parts out loud across she country they became easier to identify as hate groups.

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        6 months ago

        If you’re changing the methodology, it’s beyond disingenuous to claim a change in the data.

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          Organizations routinely update how they define things. Especially nuanced sociological categories that do in fact shift with time, public perception, and politics. It’s not disingenuous unless those definitions are not clearly described in the literature analyzing the data. Being better able to identify these groups based on more information is a good thing. I’ve seen no evidence that anything unethical happened here.

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    AI hate group, Elon Musk hate group, Microsoft hate group, Boeing hate group and so on?

    Edit: Almost forgot about the Israel hate group