• @[email protected]
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    1014 days ago

    Monetary cost is the wrong y-axis here, as it optimkzes only for mega-scale farming without taking its real costs in consideration. It should be ‘true cost’, which also accounts for environmental-, animal- and climate mitigation cost. And subsidies.

    • enkers
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      What’s the cost of an animal’s life, human or otherwise?

      I recognize you’re trying to add in externalities that haven’t been included, but determining a cost of life links it to some sort of utility, which I don’t think it should be. Sentient lives should never be treated as a means.

      • @[email protected]
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        814 days ago

        I agree with you on principle, but this chart is economics-based, like it or not. And many people do think like that.

        My point here is for them: this chart is not realistic. For example, it almost equates lentils with chicken. Even though chicken involves a lot more costs, including in animal welfare, societal, etc.

        • @[email protected]
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          514 days ago

          This chart is useful as a guide for consumers: How much protein do I get and how much does it cost me?

          It doesn’t seem to be designed to show anything else.

        • enkers
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          214 days ago

          I’d have to ask, what do you mean when you say the “cost […] of animal welfare”?

          I agree the chart is unrealistic, but perhaps for subtly different reasons.

          Surely there are some who would be happy to put a pricetag on the suffering of others, but on principle, I think such thinking should be avoided by vegans, regardless of if other people are comfortable doing so.

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    414 days ago

    I had pinto beans and rice today. Beans, lentils, and peanuts make up the majority of the protein I get, turns out it’s probably because of price.

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    314 days ago

    While I agree with the general sentiment, it’s absurd to compare dried pasta to foods that dont need to soak up water.

    Pasta will pick up about 100% of it’s volume in water when cooking and has about half the density of water from what I could find right now, so your 100g of dry pasta would be 300g of cooked pasta, so the effective protein density is 1/3 of that displayed on the chart