First of all… This is the most bloated, ChatGPT article ever.
Second. Godzilla Minus One just looks OKAY. Let’s not kid ourselves here. When half your story takes place in very simple, small sets, and another 40% can be shot in a water sound stage or on the open water with little set design needed, no shit it’s gonna save you a lot of money.
Do people think these Star Wars sets just exist already or something? They take huge teams to conceive of and dress them. And then you’ve got the volume stages where not only are you spending a fuckload to rent out for the day, but your CG artists have to generate those environments ahead of time.
Articles like these are fucking idiotic.
Do people think these Star Wars sets just exist already or something?
Yeah i do. After the new movies, several tv shows, and the galaxys edge theme parks they have a decade plus of star wars specific production infrastructure to draw on. They’re not starting from scratch on this show.
Isn’t this show set on a completely different time period?
Does that matter prop wise? I’d say I have above average knowledge of star wars lore and I have absolutely no idea how to visually tell the difference between say the old republic era and the most recent trilogy. The only thing I can think of that reliably identifies a time period in star wars in terms of visual design is storm trooper helmets.
There are actually quite a few awesome Old/High Republic properties.
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You would think they aren’t starting from scratch, but each crappy shot of an underbaked Coruscant suggests otherwise.
Are you telling me they didn’t film on Coruscant? /s
Usually the film the pilot on the real Coruscant, then they recreate the interior in a pavilion, and use the same exterior footage over and over again.
Its still more expensive, per episode, than other SW shows and more expensive than Episode IV itself ($57M) adjusted for inflation.
I dont think this is a SW problem tho. TV and movies seem to be getting ridiculously expensive to make for some reason
Second. Godzilla Minus One just looks OKAY.
It looks great, and it was a great film, and I had a great time watching it.
The power of one, the power of two, the power of millions of dollars down the drain. shakes violently in a trance
Absurd amounts of cgi will do that.
Not that I think that CGI is cheap, but spending millions in computer graphics with today’s powerful hardware sounds absurd. So, something else must be it.
Edit: Oh, please. CGI is cheaper than actual props. ET the movie would be way cheaper to remake today than 40 years ago.
It’s still human intensive to actually make. Also, when nearly every scene has something that was cgi it really adds up fast.
Yeah, yeah, but it surely beats creating gigantic props, or miniatures, like back in the 70s and 80s in terms of costs.
I’m sure even with the advances we have seen that the costs have not dropped even slightly for a per hour like break down for rendering anything.
In fact this space is such a hot bed for rampent price gouging, hedgeing against the movies production, shell companys as standard opperation procedure to absorb and off set potential losses, the fine fucking print is almost illegible… Its surprising any money is “made” anywhere.
Which is exactly my point. It’s not CG, the technology, that’s expensive. It’s the human factor surrounding it.
I was worried as soon as the “GMO cost $15 million” mindvirus got started that it would be weaponized for bad faith arguments. To replicate Godzilla Minus One, you need a leader with an unhealthy approach to work/life to throw himself into hours of work. Another way to get that budget is to exploit the shit out of your workers
There is obviously a ton of waste in Western entertainment budgets, particularly from Disney. But online commenters are doing the work of Disney’s executives by holding up an outlier as an example of the new benchmark for budget success. You shouldn’t fixate on the profitability of the endeavor, but instead on the effectiveness of the investment.
Executive cocaine and underage hooker binges don’t pay for themselves.
Godzilla Minus One was a risk. Any Star Wars content is a cash cow they’re not worried about throwing money at.
Was it? Shin Godzilla was the most profitable Japanese movie ever.
And Minus One was significantly less profitable than Shin.
I read that headline and thought it meant:
(Cost per Episode) = 2 × (Cost of Godzilla Movie) - $1
The Acolyte. All my friends said it was such utter shit that I didn’t even bother to give it a chance.
Your friends are morons. There are three episodes out and they’re all pretty good so far but they story will have to pay off. It’s not even possible to know if it’s shit yet because the it’s just getting started lol. Imagine going to see a movie, leaving after 30 minutes and then telling everyone how bad of a movie it was. You didn’t see the movie idiot, why are you commenting on its quality?
Hmmmm… if a movie starts with stupid plot points in the first few minutes, and not in an ironic/satirical way (e.g. “I’m alone in a park - what’s that noise in the dark? Let’s investigate!” or “Everyone is carrying a gun. I’ll fight them with my katana sword!”) then I kind of know what I’m getting myself into for the rest of the movie.
Same deal.
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Agree to disagree. Episode three was such a waste of time after the first two episodes heavily explained what happened through dialogue. Thanks for the cringefest that was the ascension ceremony, I guess?
Also, I’d hardly blame someone leaving a movie if the first 30 minutes weren’t doing it for them. That’s usually a fourth of the movie. More than enough time to determine if you want to stick around for the rest of it. That doesn’t make one a moron. Quite the opposite.
Your friends are morons.
IMDB 3.5
Hmm. So clearly most think the episodes blew chunks…
There are three episodes out and they’re all pretty good so far but they story will have to pay off
lol
It’s not even possible to know if it’s shit yet because the it’s just getting started
Imagine going to see a movie, leaving after 30 minutes and then telling everyone how bad of a movie it was
If the first 30 minutes are total garbage then yeah it doesn’t seem great for the rest of the movie
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Everywhere I look the audience reaction seems to have been bad. And with what my friends said, I’m starting to think that it might not just be review bombing but maybe the audience just didn’t like it. Remind me of the whole Ghostbusters shit all over again.
Of course it’s my friends’ comments that weigh the most to me, not audience scores and such. I was just talking about that to show that it doesn’t seem to be at all some outlier opinion.
You know how at the start of a thriller movie you might see some events transpire and you’re interested
But it didn’t interest them and they felt it was dogshit. So it failed to get that interest. That’s sorta the whole issue. Starting out slow is one thing but being shit and uninteresting because of that from the get-go is something else.
Imagine watching the first 30 minutes of like, Memento, or something, and complaining that the movie is bad because it doesn’t make sense.
Memento was very interesting and great from the start. This doesn’t seem to have achieved that. It’s nice that you’re willing to give this show so much benefit of the doubt so to say, but for most, if it starts as garbage then I totally understand if they expect the same from the rest and drop it. For me, if all my friends say it’s shit and not worth my time, then it does sound like there’s a high chance I won’t like it and that’s why I won’t be checking it out.
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I did watch Ghostbusters and felt like it was pretty shit. The whole online discussion about it turned into some culture war shit and a lot of the criticism was dismissed as part of that, when a lot of it seemed to just be that it just wasn’t funny.
My friends aren’t much into politics. And their criticism wasn’t about politics either. So considering how I know what they like, they know what I like and how similar our tastes are, it’s going to be a solid no from me on that basis. If they all felt it was garbage then it’s very likely I’d feel the same way.
Maybe the show turns around and some of my friends start recommending it to me. But with this sort of start, I’m not going to hold my breath.
Acolyte is a 6/10 show, and it frustrates me that I feel like I have to defend it
That’s pretty bad on a 1-10 scale. I wouldn’t bother defending such a thing.
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It’s not great, but there are some who have enjoyed it. If it were “Legends” content I think it would go over better.
there are some who have enjoyed it
lol
Your friends have good taste.
Hah, I dunno about good taste but it’s very similar to mine so I value their opinion on this stuff
All Star Wars is utter shit.
I like some of the stuff. Recently not so much, even though there’s good ones even there
