Media: “Twitter is slowly degrading after API access was made infeasible.”
reddit: “Yeah! We want that too!”
Been on Reddit for over 10 years and this move finally made me go look for alternatives that don’t hate their own users. Reddit was already going downhill fast the last couple of years, and this move was the last drop for me. If they want to Digg their own hole so be it. Only thing I haven’t found so far is an alternative to the NSFW side of Reddit.
Be the change your want to see, open up those NSFW boards! 🍑
The issue is that the images would be hosted on the instance itself - meaning you’d have whatever got uploaded on a local computer.
Then you have to make sure that everything is legit and above-board before you get overwhelmed with illegal content and the cops start coming after you.
Yeah, this is the perpetual challenge. I wouldn’t mind hosting an open server and dedicating resources to it, but I can’t afford for it in (and have no interest in it) becoming a full time admin job, which is what’s needed to prevent the problems you mention.
Freenet’s design was near perfect; the blobs you hosted were (are?) encrypted file segments that are assembled by a client into a file that can be decrypted. As a host, you have plausible deniability; you literally have no idea what the blobs you’re serving can be assembled into (unless you put them there). It’s great for political dissidents and libre journalism; it’s great for hosts who are willing to donate server resources but don’t want the burden of content administration. OTOH, it’s equally good for warez, CP, fascist and (other) terrorist coordination, and general naughtiness. It’s also slow as fuck (or was, years ago).
I keep waiting for a modern, performant version of Freenet, but any such system would suffer from abuse, and there’s a moral question about knowing that you are, in some way, enabling some amount of content you may strongly feel opposed to.
Filecoin?
I have a knee-jerk negative reaction to anything with “coin” in the name (aside from bitcoin), but I’ll check out out.
I’m hoping this is the push needed for a Reddit alternative to gain enough traction without being a cesspit like Voat was.
I’m liking what I see so far today on the fediverse so far but yeah - moderation is key
yep, and with what I see on Beehaw, I’m happy with how the moderation looks
Honestly I would have joined beehaw except I disagree with the no downvote policy. It forces you into a terrible tradeoff where either you upvote literally everything that isn’t bad, but then have no way of actually indicating truly good content, or else only upvote the truly good content, but then have no way of indicating bad content. You could always block users that post bad content, but that’s a super heavy handed approach with no real nuance, and doesn’t help improve the community.
That is true. But there is a hidden upside to it. On Reddit, people often used the downvote as an “I do not agree with your views” instead of “this comment or post is of good quality for discussion.”
Post the wrong view in an echo chambered subreddit and you are downvoted to Oblivion.
Moderation with federated communities is going to come down to general consensus. That’s easy to do with communities that deal with facts and reason, and it explains a lot about how right-wing and hate groups fall apart because nothing is actually based on anything. You can’t prove someone is wrong if like… everyone is.
They can’t federate. Everyone has a better idea of the truth.
We can, because the truth is what the truth is and like-minded people can collect and agree on it.
As someone who’s used Apollo almost every day since the day it originally launched, this is very unwelcome news indeed.
As far as my use of Reddit is concerned, this may well kill it completely. I was a huge Twitter user until Musk came along, when I switched over to Mastodon. But I kept a foot in both camps right up until they killed Tweetbot. I went from posting 20/30 times a day to maybe 6 posts since January - most of which are links to my Mastodon page.
Twitter probably won’t miss me, and neither, in turn, will Reddit. But I can’t in good conscience prop up such bullshit.
I just feel bad for the app devs. In the case of Tweetbot; at least they were able to (very quickly) pivot their code into Ivory, so I just transferred my subscription accordingly. But I don’t see how Christian at Apollo can do the same. Unless he sets out to develop an app for Lemmy, that is 😆
Infinity will have a app for Lemmy!
Source?
Where did you see that?
hopefully we can have Apollo for Lemmy!
Doubt it honestly
Yeah, it’s super sad actually. My favourite Reddit client was/is RedReader, an open source client, which was/is just awesome.
Of course, being open source means that there is no way to have a subscription at all without making every user have their own API keys into Reddit.
I deleted both my accounts (one active, the other inactive) and gave Reddit a rather passive agressive “you know what you did” when the news first broke. I miss r/Askhistorians and r/Heraldry, but Reddit is dead to me at this point.
As a mod on reddit; this just makes my job even harder. I frequently rely on third party apps to moderate efficiently; particularly on mobile.
It seems like a lot of proprietary platforms are doing this API pricing hikes — while this is great for libre user-respecting alternatives like lemme, I’m also curious what could have been the impetus…
Elon is the cause.
He started doing sketchy things. Other tech companies saw that they were leaving money on the table and followed suit.
Let’s not forget that Elon also was the first of the tech companies to start layoffs. These other companies have been playing “follow the leader”, not caring that the leader is leading them to a pile of crap.
Watch them follow elon on his downfall. God how stupid all of this is.
I’m thinking it’s AI. Data just got a lot more valuable and Elon was wanting to sue Open AI and MS for not paying him a ridiculous amount of money. Reddit is going public and wants a big payout.
Every one knew that these companies were going to cash in on their users eventually that’s why I’m glad sites like this exist.
