• voracitude@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I think The Imperium of Man is the best solution humans could come up with to the threats of a horrific and unforgiving universe, and it does preserve the species, so in that sense it’s “good” even if it’s a nightmare of human rights violations every second of every sol on nearly every planet in the empire. Plus, who the fuck is gonna argue with a psyker so strong he can fight off literal chaos gods?

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      5 months ago

      Plus, who the fuck is gonna argue with a psyker so strong he can fight off literal chaos gods?

      Apparently everyone, considering that no one has listened to Big E since he sat his ass on the Golden Throne.

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      In universe they are justified because Tyranids.

      Tyranids won’t just kill every person on a planet, they will eat everyone, every animal, every tree, every insect and strip a planet back to the minerals and then do it again. They arent immoral because they have no morals.

      In the face of that literally anything is justified even if it’s horrific.

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        5 months ago

        In the face of that literally anything is justified even if it’s horrific.

        What about things that are both horrific and counterproductive?

        See: Papa Blueberry’s high level despair over the Imperium going from “Bad but with a clear cause” to “Directionless bureaucracy-bound theocracy with corpse starch”

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        5 months ago

        This is an entire universe designed around what a fourteen year old thinks is cool. It is not equipped to answer Sartre’s question “why not commit suicide?”

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      5 months ago

      The Imperium are the worst outcome for humanity.

      The Interex would not have fallen to Chaos.

      The fleet based societies wouldn’t have invaded and gone to war with literally all peaceful Xeno.

      A sane federation of post dark age human planets could have been formed without the autocratic dictatorship and avoided war with half the galaxy.

      This would have left humanity AND xenos better off and more capable of defeating emerging threats like the Tyranids.

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        5 months ago

        I don’t disagree. I didn’t say the Imperium was the best option, I said it’s the best option humans could come up with. I may be a little cynical nowadays about how readily people will accept authoritarianism in the face of a crisis.