I hate that groups like the ACLU have to defend nazi scum to protect my liberties. Better that the government not violate our rights in the first place, but in lieu of that, even nazi scum is subject to the same rights and due process as any other citizen. However, I wouldn’t mind if they got pantsed a couple of times by their lawyers.

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    I get a kick out of lawyers doing the right thing despite their convictions or moral objections.

    Actually, I was just watching Philadelphia last night. That’s the one where Tom Hanks is gay and has AIDS and Denzel has to defend him for getting fired even though he is morally opposed to “homosexuals” (the ‘in’ term back in the day). Obviously defending a gay and sick man for discrimination is entirely different from defending Nazis, but still, it’s a tangible illustration of Blind Justice.

    Best of luck, Nazi shitbag!

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        5 months ago

        I like seeing our right to not be spied on being defended, yes.

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        Using examples like this to erode rights is how the nazis got public support to become nazis.

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          Are you saying people will join a group that committed the holocaust because they wanted to blow up a power grid and the police didn’t check all the right boxes when they found out?

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            I’m saying if you say “fuck you rights” to bad people it’s easier for the government to fuck everyone’s rights

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        Then the government should have gotten a fucking warrant so there wouldn’t be any grounds to appeal.

        You’ll be real sorry the next time a Republican is in office and uses this as precedent to spy on and persecute anyone sympathetic to the LGBT community.

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        I don’t know how your “people” are but you should know it’s not about defending a person but the rights of all Americans.

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            Then they should be charged with whatever crimes they committed and face a jury of their peers to determine their guilt. That is not what this case is about.

            I didn’t know “gay” was a people. I don’t go around calling straight people “my people”. How weird. Maybe you’ve got some prejudice against certain groups that don’t look like you.