• Phegan@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I am voting for Biden and everyone else who doesn’t want fascism should too, but I am so fucking beaten down by the Democrats hand picking terrible candidates, and our court system is already so destroyed it may not matter if Biden even wins.

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    Do the democrats actually have anyone worth putting up instead of Biden? Like what’s the alternatives?

    Surely they must have at least one young guy from Texas that wears a cowboy hat or something.

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      Sure sure, there are dozens of options. That’s not the issue. IMO internal DNC power is what is at play. It doesn’t matter what Biden does because he’ll retire soon, but a young leader would take power away from corporate backers for decades to come.

      Also, to hell with the Times.

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        Any two party voting system is a terrible, terrible system. New Zealand changed theirs and it’s much better now (according to Kiwis I spoke to).

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      What exactly are you saying Daily Beast got wrong here? They said he wasn’t endorsed and won. Are you saying that isn’t true? Because you also seem to acknowledge that he won that race

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        He was not endorsed in the primary.

        He was endorsed in the general in 2020.

        Biden didn’t win be a lot by 2020. But he has a habit of telling anyone that doesn’t support him 100% that he doesn’t need them

        I thought it was a pretty obvious issue.

        Edit:

        I mean. He’s responding to criticism he might not be able to win the general, are you saying he was talking about the primary?

        Is this just him getting confused again?

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            Can you provide a quote from the article

            So you want a quote from the article titled:

            Elect Joe Biden America

            That has a byline of the entire Times editorial board …

            To show they the Times endorsed Biden last election?

            Are you sure the headline isn’t enough?

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      This has nothing to do with the general.

      The NYT is now calling for Democrats to nominate someone other than Biden.

      Biden is pointing out that the NYT did the same in 2020, but Democrats nominated Biden anyway. In other words, who cares what the NYT wants?

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    According to Biden,

    • Trump is a once in a generation threat to democracy that must be defeated at any cost.
    • He, Biden, an 81 year old guy with even lower approval ratings than Trump, should be the guy who goes up against Trump. Nobody else on the D bench should be allowed to try.

    Great logic.

    Oh by the way, there are no signs that Sotomayor is planning to retire either…

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        Half of that table has no fucking data, and you’re saying that Biden is better than the competition?!?

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          Brand new data shows that no Democrat outperforms Biden against Trump.

          Also, when asked who should replace Biden the clear favorite was Kamala Harris. So be careful what you wish for.

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            I would have loved to see the results if they had included any progressive possibilities in there… especially Bernie.

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              You’ve got to stop kidding yourself, most of america does not.share your/our political opinions, it feels like it when inside a bubble like on here but the wider reality of people who actually vote they’re not going to win.

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            Harris performs the same as Biden in a head-to-head matchup against Trump.

            So we get the same performance without concern for age, etc. what’s to lose?

            Also, I didn’t see a MoE reported.

            I’m not a fan of Harris, but we need to keep trump out of the WH.

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            The incumbent just shit the bed on live tv and fell into the trap set by the degenerates. You can huff as much copium as you want, we’re fucked without a shakeup of some kind. Brandon has a chance, sure, especially if Trump chokes on a fucking hamberder, but that’s not a risk worth taking. Swapping him out for a charismatic leader is a risk worth taking. Now kindly fuck off.

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            The previous incumbent lost during a major crisis, which is supposed to be like the most sure-fire way for a president to get re-elected.

            I think the rulebook is taking a break at the moment.

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        Polling of hypotheticals is notoriously flaky. If a fresh D comes in as nominee, all the “have to beat Trump” talking points will still be there, and all the “this guy has dementia” talking points will be wiped away. It’s hard to imagine any other nominee having negatives that could be worse than credible accusations of dementia.

        Edit: except for Harris.

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          Yeah. Newsom is a particularly great debater. I think he would give Trump a serious whipping.

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          Why would it?

          If anything, the opposite would occur. As soon as someone announces they are running against Trump, the personal attacks start and they become an object of constant public ridicule. Just ask Ron DeSantis.

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            The very act of campaigning effects poll numbers. Figures like Newsom are pretty obscure outside their states.

            Also there’s quite a difference between running against Trump as a Republican and a Democrat. DeSantis had to contend with his own Party being divided. A hypothetical Biden replacement would have the Party’s unified support.

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              The very act of campaigning tends to drag candidates down as their flaws are identified and hammered over and over.

              That’s what happened to Dukakis, Gore, McCain, Clinton, etc. Even Obama, who in 2008 went from “inspirational DNC orator” to “inexperienced community activist”.

              And that’s what’s happening to Biden.

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        No one even knows who they are. Harris and Buttigieg are the best well known and neither stand a chance.

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          Biden’s polls have been fairly static or even slightly improved over time.

          The other Democrats have done nothing to win over new voters, so there is no reason to think they would poll better against Trump today.

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            Its almost like the other democrats haven’t been running for office and building name recognition. I wonder why OH YEAH, DNC thought a democratic process was too divisive and would make their octogenarian look bad. Based on the debate, they sure were right! Their candidate cant take 3 steps away from a teleprompter.

            Polls are meant to be moved, any of those other candidates would be in a better position than Biden within a few months.

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    Good thing he didn’t call them. They wouldn’t have understood his mumbling.