Problem is that most western democracies rely on those cheap migrants worker to fill most jobs that locals do not want to fill anymore for various reasons (physical difficulty, low wages, bad images).
So yeah, if you want cities filled with garbages, amazon packages that takes weeks to arrive, among other. Go on. Kick them all out.
Problem is that most western democracies rely on those cheap migrants worker to fill most jobs that locals do not want to fill anymore
WRONG.
It’s supposed to be a market economy, if someone doesn’t want to do the job for an advertised rate you’re supposed to increase the rate until it becomes palatable.
Not import people to artificially keep wages and living conditions down for the working class.
So yeah, if you want cities filled with garbages, amazon packages that takes weeks to arrive, among other. Go on. Kick them all out.
If you want living conditions to continue to get worse and wages to spiral downwards until food completely unaffordable, keep importing people to keep the wages down, like you suggest.
It’s supposed to be a market economy, if someone doesn’t want to do the job for an advertised rate you’re supposed to increase the rate until it becomes palatable.
I’m not against the idea, after all that’s what the left ask for a long time, but it will increase cost, which will be impacted on everyone cost of living. For a party that make most of its campaign on improving everyone standard of living, their ideas would have the opposite effect.
Not import people to artificially keep wages and living conditions down for the working class.
“Importing” people kinda sound like you consider them as goods, which isn’t an appropriate way to call them. They are humans beings, with the same fundamental right as any local. But that’s probably not the point you wanted to point, so let’s skip that part.
Most of those people went through a perilous journey, which often result in their death. Some are motivated by the better living wages, sure (can we blame them, that’d be like having a country offering millions of € as a base wage for an average European, I doubt most would skip on that), but most are just refugee from war thorn countries that just wish to find a safe place to live.
They are lured by criminal groups that rob them of all of their belongings, some of their dignity (sold as slaves in Libya, things like that), in hope to get a ticket to what seem as a promised land compared to their home countries.
And if they are sent back, it would mean starting over from nothing, with no money nor work (which is some case would result in their death by starvation). For some of them that also mean sentencing them to torture and/or death, just because they are from an unwanted ethnicity, are gay, or anything the local consider as undesirable.
I don’t think we can condemn them for trying, considering some of their home countries problem are a direct result of western action (creating countries out of nothing without taking ethnic boundaries into account, among other things), but we have a moral duty to at least give them a fair chance at proving they can integrate into their adoptive countries.
No country can welcome everyone, but putting every bad things on the back of the “migrants” by defining them as a generic bad person that’s only there to do bad things is dishonest at best. Most of France problems are the result of years on gifts to the rich in hope that they’d be magnanimous enough to create more work (they never did, or at best did the bare minimum). Migrants are just straw-men used as a stepping stone by those who are more interested in power than in helping others.
I think in the case of France and Europe, the Syrian civil war led to a lot of refugees coming. I’m sure they did find jobs, but it wasn’t the primary reason for their arrival.
Well, sure there have always been some immigrants, so the question is why is it now leading to a right wing backlash? I think what is different is the high volume due to the Syrian civil war.
Problem is that most western democracies rely on those cheap migrants worker to fill most jobs that locals do not want to fill anymore for various reasons (physical difficulty, low wages, bad images).
So yeah, if you want cities filled with garbages, amazon packages that takes weeks to arrive, among other. Go on. Kick them all out.
WRONG.
It’s supposed to be a market economy, if someone doesn’t want to do the job for an advertised rate you’re supposed to increase the rate until it becomes palatable.
Not import people to artificially keep wages and living conditions down for the working class.
If you want living conditions to continue to get worse and wages to spiral downwards until food completely unaffordable, keep importing people to keep the wages down, like you suggest.
I’m not against the idea, after all that’s what the left ask for a long time, but it will increase cost, which will be impacted on everyone cost of living. For a party that make most of its campaign on improving everyone standard of living, their ideas would have the opposite effect.
“Importing” people kinda sound like you consider them as goods, which isn’t an appropriate way to call them. They are humans beings, with the same fundamental right as any local. But that’s probably not the point you wanted to point, so let’s skip that part.
Most of those people went through a perilous journey, which often result in their death. Some are motivated by the better living wages, sure (can we blame them, that’d be like having a country offering millions of € as a base wage for an average European, I doubt most would skip on that), but most are just refugee from war thorn countries that just wish to find a safe place to live. They are lured by criminal groups that rob them of all of their belongings, some of their dignity (sold as slaves in Libya, things like that), in hope to get a ticket to what seem as a promised land compared to their home countries. And if they are sent back, it would mean starting over from nothing, with no money nor work (which is some case would result in their death by starvation). For some of them that also mean sentencing them to torture and/or death, just because they are from an unwanted ethnicity, are gay, or anything the local consider as undesirable. I don’t think we can condemn them for trying, considering some of their home countries problem are a direct result of western action (creating countries out of nothing without taking ethnic boundaries into account, among other things), but we have a moral duty to at least give them a fair chance at proving they can integrate into their adoptive countries.
No country can welcome everyone, but putting every bad things on the back of the “migrants” by defining them as a generic bad person that’s only there to do bad things is dishonest at best. Most of France problems are the result of years on gifts to the rich in hope that they’d be magnanimous enough to create more work (they never did, or at best did the bare minimum). Migrants are just straw-men used as a stepping stone by those who are more interested in power than in helping others.
I think in the case of France and Europe, the Syrian civil war led to a lot of refugees coming. I’m sure they did find jobs, but it wasn’t the primary reason for their arrival.
I think in the case of France and Europe, colonizing half the fucking world led to a lot of refugees coming.
Oh, lots of Algerians coming to France? Maybe you shouldn’t have conquered fucking Algeria and given them a reason to.
Theres a lot of countries in between syria and france
Well, sure there have always been some immigrants, so the question is why is it now leading to a right wing backlash? I think what is different is the high volume due to the Syrian civil war.
Its a ridiculously high volume, and its not just Syrians