When you compare Biden to Trump vs. the effects on the Palestinians, were Trump president again, he would not just help the Israelis exterminate the Palestinians, but encourage them to do so quickly- as he’s already told Bibi to “finish it”. So your dichotomy is more than a bit disingenuous .

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    democrats are literally doing all these things, right now. and you really do think geopolitics justifies financing a big fascist for a genocide? cmon man. there isnt good justification to sit at the nazi table.

    people dont want to vote to biden because peoples actual lives are still slowly getting worse, and all they can do is pretend not to be commiting war crimes. most countries with mandatory polling suffer from the same problem.

    if anyone wants more from socialism they can quit being on the side of the actual politicians doing heinous shit and participate instead. real grassroots needs people.

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      This is pointless. You’re making things up. Show me which Democrats are pushing child labor and theocracy.

      I’d rather my life slowly get worse than rapidly get worse, which is the alternative. Slowly getting worse buys time for grassroots. Trump will come down on grassroots. This is very simple logic, under no circumstance is Biden worse for socialists than Trump. This is ridiculous and you’re being willfully obtuse.

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        what do you mean. democrats are commiting genocide in the middle east, torturing mexicans at the border, sending ukranians as cannon fodder.

        and moving no muscle to stop and even contributing to any advance of the aforementioned fascism despite having the power to stop it.

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          Republicans would accelerate genocide in the middle east, torture more Mexicans at the border, and genocide Ukrainians.

          They are the ones actively advancing the aforementioned fascism. Like I said, the choice is between things slowly getting worse, and quickly getting worse. Slowly getting worse gives us more time to do something about it. Democrats losing is objectively worse for all your talking points, worse for Americans, worse for the world, and particularly worse for leftists.

          I don’t know who’s side you think you’re on, but I certainly know what side your actions support. Either you’re deliberately trying to hurt the left, or you’ve unwittingly fallen for talking points that serve to hurt the left. I’m not interested in talking to propagandists or their feckless stooges.