An Iranian monarchist who filmed herself pulling the headscarves off Iranians in London fled to Israel after UK police announced they were investigating her.

The woman allegedly responsible is an Iranian pro-Israel activist called Bahar Mahroo, who later closed her Instagram and TikTok accounts and claimed she found the videos online. However, a reserve image search found no sources for the video, other than her Twitter account.

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    5 months ago

    There’s no mention of Hijabs in the Quran and “dress modestly” is very much relative. You also may or may not see Turks drinking plum wine but they’re definitely drinking beer and most definitely Raki.

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            So you picked out one non-Muslim (a scholar of comparative religion) among the many Muslims, with doctorates in Islamic Law from Arab universities and everything, to dismiss all of it.

            I tried not to but I have to start to doubt your intellectual honesty. Not towards me, I don’t care, but towards yourself.

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              5 months ago

              The first paragraph contained no reasoning. Only statements. The second with the supposed reasoning is written by Karen.

              I read your link. You did not.

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                All three paragraphs are written by wikipedia authors summing up longer texts by various scholars. If you want to actually engage with the topic on a deeper level, read those scholars, not just the summary. It’s all linked (those numbers in brackets). Ignore the Christian if you please, noone will blame you.

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                  I already read your article my previous link already debunked everything in it.

                  You should consider reading and be intellectually honest instead.

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        I can’t believe I’m getting involved in this but then you can surely show where it’s mentioned clearly?

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          And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands… until the end of the verse.

          Surah al nur, verse 31.

          It then explicitly assumes that they’re wearing a headcover. The main debate around this verse and similar ones is whether the face and hands must be covered or not, and not whether everything else must be covered.

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            Aha and which translation did you choose?

            Do you speak Arabic? More explicitly, to an extent that would allow you to understand the nuances in a verse like that?

            I’m asking because I still don’t see any proof that it is clearly written anywhere.

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              Aha and which translation did you choose? This seems rather odd.

              I don’t remember, but the Arabic word used means “head covering”.

              Do you speak Arabic? More explicitly, to an extent that would allow you to understand the nuances in a verse like that?

              I’m a native speaker so yes.

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                طب وأنا عربي كمان بس ولا عمري رح احكيلك انو فاهم اشي من القران لانو لغة القران مش لغتنا وحتى العربي الي بدو يدرس الدين لازم سنة وهو بدرس عربي بس عشان عن جد يفهم وأنا مش فاهم عربي لهالدرج وإذا أنا مش شيخ مش عارف كيف انت بدك تفهم هيك منيح لتعمل فتوى للناس

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                  أنا فاهم قصدك بس الموضوع برده مش صعب للدرجة. الآية بتقول خمار و كلمة خمار معناها غطاء الرأس في اللغة العربية مش محتاجة فتاوى. +أنا دورت قبل ما اتكلم فده كلام علماء مش كلامي.