Keep watching to the end for what you can do about it.

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        Pretty sure they only tally up the people who actually for Trump as votes for Trump.

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            For the record, I’m an advocate for everyone voting. I don’t think anyone should not vote as a protest. I just take issue with the analogy that a vote not for Biden is a vote for Trump. If you want to blame someone for Trump getting elected, blame those that voted for him.

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              Mathematically is kind of is though. At least that’s how it works out in a FPTP system. A 3rd party/non vote doesn’t carry as much weight as someone voting for Trump, but it still moves the needle in his direction. EDIT: to clarify this, GOP voters are generally the minority, that means the GOP candidate benefits more from a smaller pool of votes than the Democratic candidate does.

              If you want to blame someone for Trump getting elected, blame those that voted for him.

              I think you can blame both. The Trump voter deserves significantly more though.

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              Been saying this for months now. When you’re in the voting booth, the screen asks who you want to vote for. Voting against someone isn’t an option.

              If it was, I’d vote this year against Trump, but that’s not how it works. I don’t want Biden, either, so I won’t be voting at all.

              There is literally no counterargument to be made that doesn’t rely on changing the meaning of words or twist reality.

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                What?

                Do you know how elections work in your own country?

                The US is First Past The Post. Whoever has the most votes wins, even if they do not have a majority of the vote. Splitting the votes of one party, or abstaining from voting only gives more power to the opposition. It is an absolutely shit system, and election reform needs to happen, but it’s what you have to deal with now, and being ignorant of how it works is going to hurt everyone.

                Hypothetically there are 100 people voting between the “stubbing your toe” party and the “hot poker jammed in your urethra” party. The urethra party runs a campaign about how horrible stubbing your toe feels, and gets 40 votes. The Toe Party runs on a platform of “the choice is obvious” and gets 35. A small subset of Toe-ers break off and run their own “hitting your funnybone” party because they don’t like feet and get 10 votes. The remaining 15 voters really do NOT want to have their pissholes sealed shut by a piece of red hot iron. But at the same time, stubbing your toe or hitting your funnybone really hurts as well. They equate “pain” as an absolute value, deem both sides equal and abstain from voting.

                The number of people who do not want a blistered pisser outnumber the opposition 60/40. But in the end, the numbers come out; Funnybone : 10 Toe : 35 Urethra : 40 The next day, everyone is lined up to get their pissholes branded.

                Are you telling me that the abstainers hold no responsibility in the hurt that is bestowed upon the whole group? Or that Funnybone can blame Toe for not marketing themselves better?

                You can’t vote against Trump, you are correct on that point, but abstaining from the vote reduces the numbers of literally the only other option.

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                  I don’t want a second Biden term. I won’t vote for a second Biden term. Simple as that. That’s, literally, exactly how democracies are meant to function.

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                As I mentioned before, I would encourage you to still vote.

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                  For what reason? I don’t want either candidate to be president. I’ve voted in elections where I wanted one of the candidates to win.

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      That’s not the only thing, but it’s the minimum required thing. There’s also activism.