That’s the part that I’m actually worried about, Christians who are actively seeking to end the fucking world. They want political violence, civil unrest and war in the middle east. It’s so fucked.
There is more evidence to support the physical person of Gilgamesh (the epic of whom was stolen almost word for word to create the Torah) than that of a man called Jesus the Christ.
Ie contemporary references, records, documents. Not written 30 -400 years after death.
There’s really no historical proof, outside biblical accounts.
But that doesn’t really mean there’s a need to dismiss it out of hand. There probably was a Jewish mystic faith healer named Jesus (or whatever,); who was executed by the Roman’s for stirring the shit.
There were in fact, a lot of them. (John the Baptist comes to mind,)
Further, his name (and his father’s,) were. Both extremely common. it’s reasonable to assume at least a few were in fact named Jesus, son of Joseph, and apparently from Nazareth.
Together it’s actually not that unlikely. Though he would have had more in common with the sleaziest televangelist faithhealer you can imagine. Joel Osteen, perhaps.
One historical interpretation of the character known as Jesus is the same as the character known as Robin Hood: a collection of folk tales and exaggerations about a handful of people who lived over the course of a century, later attributed all to one person.
I mean, I just assume he was a grifter whose disciples kept on grifting after he died. It should be noted that the earliest anything was written about him specifically was about fifty years after he supposedly died. Which is why there’s a lot of retconning going on between the various accounts.
Either way, we know there were a lot of mystics in the area and time in question, and leading up to that, it was the jewish leadership’s MO to just knife them and leave their bodies in a ditch somewhere. Which. Romans kinda took issue to that. They don’t like incidental and unofficial killings. (and the leaving the bodies in the ditch… untidy!)
So, the jewish leadership had to get “creative” and convince the roman goverment he was a really bad dude. Which. He then started on about being “king of the jews” and that… well… Rome takes issue with rebellion. Totally reasonable to imagine that all happened. What happened next… not so much. but then, he was a grifter and his disciples learned the grift,
Wouldn’t it be funny if they end up being right. They destroy the world. Jesus returns. All the left wing/libs go to hell and the conservatives/maga go to heaven. Like you get to intentionally fuck everything up and then enjoy eternal bliss while the people trying to improve the world burn in hell.
That’s the part that I’m actually worried about, Christians who are actively seeking to end the fucking world. They want political violence, civil unrest and war in the middle east. It’s so fucked.
If they’re wrong, then all that doomsday prepping was just a malignant wet dream 😦
Correct me if I’m wrong, wasn’t Jesus born somewhere in West Asia?
depends on who you ask.
there’s solid reason to doubt the biblical narrative, though. the simple answer is “we don’t know, precisely”.
There is more evidence to support the physical person of Gilgamesh (the epic of whom was stolen almost word for word to create the Torah) than that of a man called Jesus the Christ. Ie contemporary references, records, documents. Not written 30 -400 years after death.
There’s really no historical proof, outside biblical accounts.
But that doesn’t really mean there’s a need to dismiss it out of hand. There probably was a Jewish mystic faith healer named Jesus (or whatever,); who was executed by the Roman’s for stirring the shit.
There were in fact, a lot of them. (John the Baptist comes to mind,)
Further, his name (and his father’s,) were. Both extremely common. it’s reasonable to assume at least a few were in fact named Jesus, son of Joseph, and apparently from Nazareth.
Together it’s actually not that unlikely. Though he would have had more in common with the sleaziest televangelist faithhealer you can imagine. Joel Osteen, perhaps.
This hasn’t been updated since before the 2020 election, but it’s a hell of a ride…
https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
One historical interpretation of the character known as Jesus is the same as the character known as Robin Hood: a collection of folk tales and exaggerations about a handful of people who lived over the course of a century, later attributed all to one person.
I mean, I just assume he was a grifter whose disciples kept on grifting after he died. It should be noted that the earliest anything was written about him specifically was about fifty years after he supposedly died. Which is why there’s a lot of retconning going on between the various accounts.
Either way, we know there were a lot of mystics in the area and time in question, and leading up to that, it was the jewish leadership’s MO to just knife them and leave their bodies in a ditch somewhere. Which. Romans kinda took issue to that. They don’t like incidental and unofficial killings. (and the leaving the bodies in the ditch… untidy!)
So, the jewish leadership had to get “creative” and convince the roman goverment he was a really bad dude. Which. He then started on about being “king of the jews” and that… well… Rome takes issue with rebellion. Totally reasonable to imagine that all happened. What happened next… not so much. but then, he was a grifter and his disciples learned the grift,
Wouldn’t it be funny if they end up being right. They destroy the world. Jesus returns. All the left wing/libs go to hell and the conservatives/maga go to heaven. Like you get to intentionally fuck everything up and then enjoy eternal bliss while the people trying to improve the world burn in hell.
Only if you have a really twisted definition of funny… Which I do, so carry on.