I did not have ‘Pelosi takes on the gerontocracy’ on my 2024 bingo card
One Pelosi ally said it was possible she would press Biden publicly to give up his spot atop the Democratic ticket.
“The speaker does not want to call on him to resign, but she will do everything in her power to make sure it happens,” this person said, referring to Biden quitting the race.
[Edit] changed the title to Politico’s after reading this community’s sidebar
So anyway, I found myself aligned with Nancy Pelosi and against Bernie Sanders and AOC
And I figured hey you know there’s nothing there that I might need to re examine, I’m sure me and Pelosi are the ones that have it figured out here
AOC and Bernie know that if they don’t toe the line, they’ll be blamed for the democrats losing (they’ll be blamed anyway).
They did the best they could to get the democrats to adopt winning policies, but they failed.
Bernie doesn’t give a fuck. (Who blames him for what)
He does nothing for image. Everything for principle.
Bernie does do things for image for the purpose of principle though - he will happily fall in line publicly over politics if it gives him political clout to make workers’ lives better.
Sounds a lot like doing something on principle to me.
I don’t disagree, but I did want to highlight that while not everything he does directly helps working people he’s always focused on that goal. Other politicians may want to be loved but Bernie just does it for the end goal.
(You can find some hilarious interviews with him about merchandising things like Birdie and the Mittens meme - he acknowledges that it’s useful for fund raising and visibility but he really has no patience for it)
Just like how nobody blamed Bernie and the left in 2016 when he fell in line after they told him
Yeah, they said hey you should forgive hundreds of billions of dollars worth of student loans, spend a trillion dollars on climate change, boost unions and domestic manufacturing and reduce income inequality for the first time in God knows how long, all while digging out from Covid better than literally any other first world country
And the Democrats said naw if we did all that I am sure the media would just fail to mention that any of it happened because they are partisan corporate hacks, leaving people with some kind of impression that Biden was an unimpressive nothingburger, so why… uh, wait…
Wait they didn’t do any of that, did they? Help me out
Also, this whole campaign has really highlighted that it’s Biden’s stubbornness and ego that’s the problem. People are tiptoeing around the issue because in the end grandpa stopping driving is his decision and if you come at him hard he’s likely to dig his heels in.
Except the state can take Grandpa’s license away. Just saying.
I honestly feel that AOC and Bernie are just desperately trying to avoid a Trump dictatorship and that means voting Democrat no matter what. The Democratic candidate at this time is Joe Biden. They’ll do what they have to to avoid that fate but it doesn’t mean they’ve given up on what makes them great.
Edit: this is why https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/biden-endorse-harris-vp-aoc-bernie-sanders.html
Ours is not to wonder why. Ours is but to vote and die.
Yes. I’m a leftist, not someone that blindly follows charismatic politicians. And Im not gonna oppose something just because a politician I dislike advocates for it. Policy>personality
I also disagree with Pelosi’s reasoning for wanting Biden to drop out. She just thinks he can’t win. I think Joe should step aside since he enacts genocidal policies.
Por que no los dos?
She is one to talk.
Remember that billionaire wedding during COVID, with Nancy Pelosi front and center and happy as could be? There really should have been a Democratic rebellion at that. She was just doing everything she possibly could to undercut Democratic messaging for her stupid fucking social life. And then she went home and traded some stocks.
i guess it takes one to know one in this case.
Age is more than just a number. She’s older than him but she can still do the political math better.
(note, this is far from an endorsement of her. I’ve been trying to vote her out since I moved to SF 13 years ago)
I mean you don’t have to like her but she did step down from the speakership when the time was right.
At age 83?
It’s a low bar in our current society. That said, she seemed sharp. I never got the sense that she wasn’t able to do the job, which is probably easier than the presidency.
Honestly, I don’t really share the concerns some people have about Biden being president. He’s been doing alright and his aides can take over if he declines further. The bigger issue is his lack of ability to campaign and persuade voters. Without this, he won’t win the election.
The house speaker does some campaigning but not as much. It’s more of a behind the scenes job.
I agree whole heartedly - I actually far less concerns about Biden’s age when it comes to being president… it’s obviously suboptimal but if there are smart people around him it’ll probably be fine.
My concern is that this greedy fuck is going to be unable to win the fucking election. Trump cannot be president and my concern is Biden is making that more likely.
Except recent foreign policy failures, I mostly think Biden has done a good job.
On the other hand, I don’t care much for Pelosi. The presidency is not a role where the person in charge can easily step down and give it to a younger generation: for better or for worse, the person in that seat is the one who got elected. House speaker is different, and Pelosi hogged that chair for far too long clinging on to an outdated idea of the Democratic party.
Or that’s my impression anyway, I don’t have an inside understanding of American politics. Thank god.
You know what they say: A broken clock is right twice a century
She still has her wits. We all age differently and it’s extremely unfair at a basic level that some of us will be sharp in our 90s while others will suffer from early onset dementia before we get to retirement.
I genuinely think we need an age limit of like 65 or lower for politicians but Biden is dragging this shit out in a way Pelosi didn’t. I loathe her for other reasons but never because I thought she was mentally incapable of holding her position (the stock trading on the other hand…)
Pelosi’s office in a statement said she had not spoken to Biden since returning to California on Friday — and questioned the reporting about her conversation with the president. “These sources are not good sources,” her spokesperson said.
These sources are fake sources. The story is transparently intended to force her to make public statements about Biden’s competence and quality as a candidate. The author should be publicly shamed for lying.
Pot, meet kettle.
Harris and a progressive vp would win, biden needs to go away now and enjoy being a old person
She was using a Ouija board to contact an ancestor but got her wires crossed and ended up in Joe’s mind, being as it is half-way down the tunnel towards the light.
…but i wont do that
Biden needs to fuck off.
He’s obviously gonna quit before November, it’s just a matter of how long he’s gonna drag it out and how much damage he’s going to do before then.
You are not wrong
