When there are literally thousands of serial killers and the school was declared closed but filled with children to protect the serial killers it is justified at this point because to negotiate with terrorists itself promotes these tragedies. A school gets flattened so a dozen others might live. The greater good.
So if the only way to save your children was to pull a lever to have the trolley hit another child who happens to also be throwing rocks at yours you’d not pull it? You’d watch your children get run over to save the life of a hostile child? How believable you sound.
I mean, they are even referenced as throwing stones (a… gasp hostile act) in your fellow terrorist warcrime supporter’s links, but you continue to believe what you want.
Whenever I’m curious about how people got in the frame of mind to support the Nazis, I just have to see those kinds of comments to remember how. Some people haven’t evolved past that dehumanization apparently.
But if you’re referring to Hamas, I don’t support them either; as I clearly said I don’t support the killing of innocent people. Even if that is in response to the murder of innocent people.
Hamas suck, As does the Israeli government and anybody that supports their actions over the last 9/10 months and even longer than that to be honest.
See, you’re doing it again. No, Hamas doesn’t just ‘suck’. It’s this false equivalence BS that has my ire. Hamas… are. literal. terrorists. and that is not in dispute by anyone worth listening to. Hamas as a strategy kill, rape, torture, and take hostage anyone they can get their evil fucking hands on. Israel wants to just exist but have been putting up with the afforementioned terrorism for 80 years. So they got a little Nietzschian. Israel is sick of it. I would be too if I was in their shoes.
That’s the difference. They have a right to exist and I support that unequivocally. Are they perfect? Of course not. Would they be as hostile to Palestinians as they are had Terrorism Incorporated not made every minute of the last 80 years constant jeopardy? Um probably not. Is this a genocide? Not yet, but it could be if team Hamas doesn’t smarten up and say ‘hey now maybe peaceful solutions are a good idea’. Until then, Fuck Hamas and their putting civilians lives in jeopardy with their stubbornness.
If and when they surrender and release the hostages Israel continues this assault then yeah. They the baddies. Right now they are just getting their hands dirtier than you, sitting comfortably in your a/c sipping a latte somewhere else, would prefer protecting themselves.
So you don’t see how Israelis settlers make life unlivable for Palestinians? Or that Israel has taken more and more territory over the last 8 decades?
You seem to only want to shit on the terrorists Hamas and find issue with my choice of words, and not address any critique of Israel at all. That get my ire, the fact that people will focus on Hamas.
Edit: I will sit down and commiserate with you on the shit show from both sides for the last 80 years, but those issues should have been dealt with in the past and are not a justification for the present.
Who decides when we the statute of limitations is up on past transgressions of Israel?
Same people that decide that for the past transgressions of Terrorism Incorporated. Both sides need to stop, sit down and come to an agreement somehow. The only other way for peace is one Hamas sympathizers will NOT like.
As for ‘the next wave of Hamas conscripts’. That is inevitable. 80 ish years ago Israel did nothing but come into existance due to a UN mandate and all the nations around them declared war. Nothing Israel can do or not do will prevent Hamas and the like from growing except ceasing to exist and that is the genocide Hamas et al sympathizers are actually supporting.
Because cowering behind civilians in the hopes their deaths garner sympathy is totally not in the terrorist handbook
It is! But that is no excuse for killing so many civilians.
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If a serial killer runs into a school you don’t bomb the school. Well, I wouldn’t consider it justified, but apparently Israelis do.
When there are literally thousands of serial killers and the school was declared closed but filled with children to protect the serial killers it is justified at this point because to negotiate with terrorists itself promotes these tragedies. A school gets flattened so a dozen others might live. The greater good.
lol no it’s still not justified to kill a bunch of innocent kids.
So if the only way to save your children was to pull a lever to have the trolley hit another child who happens to also be throwing rocks at yours you’d not pull it? You’d watch your children get run over to save the life of a hostile child? How believable you sound.
Even the children are hostile in your made-up world? Please, do us all a favor and forgo breeding.
I mean, they are even referenced as throwing stones (a… gasp hostile act) in your fellow terrorist warcrime supporter’s links, but you continue to believe what you want.
The absolute audacity of this comment leaves me speechless.
Merry fuck you.
Whenever I’m curious about how people got in the frame of mind to support the Nazis, I just have to see those kinds of comments to remember how. Some people haven’t evolved past that dehumanization apparently.
I for one don’t think you can ever justify killing civilians, let along tens of thousands of them.
Then again, I’m not a monster so 🤷
and yet you (directly or indirectly) literally support known terrorists.
I do not support Israel.
But if you’re referring to Hamas, I don’t support them either; as I clearly said I don’t support the killing of innocent people. Even if that is in response to the murder of innocent people.
Hamas suck, As does the Israeli government and anybody that supports their actions over the last 9/10 months and even longer than that to be honest.
See, you’re doing it again. No, Hamas doesn’t just ‘suck’. It’s this false equivalence BS that has my ire. Hamas… are. literal. terrorists. and that is not in dispute by anyone worth listening to. Hamas as a strategy kill, rape, torture, and take hostage anyone they can get their evil fucking hands on. Israel wants to just exist but have been putting up with the afforementioned terrorism for 80 years. So they got a little Nietzschian. Israel is sick of it. I would be too if I was in their shoes.
That’s the difference. They have a right to exist and I support that unequivocally. Are they perfect? Of course not. Would they be as hostile to Palestinians as they are had Terrorism Incorporated not made every minute of the last 80 years constant jeopardy? Um probably not. Is this a genocide? Not yet, but it could be if team Hamas doesn’t smarten up and say ‘hey now maybe peaceful solutions are a good idea’. Until then, Fuck Hamas and their putting civilians lives in jeopardy with their stubbornness.
If and when they surrender and release the hostages Israel continues this assault then yeah. They the baddies. Right now they are just getting their hands dirtier than you, sitting comfortably in your a/c sipping a latte somewhere else, would prefer protecting themselves.
So you don’t see how Israelis settlers make life unlivable for Palestinians? Or that Israel has taken more and more territory over the last 8 decades?
You seem to only want to shit on the terrorists Hamas and find issue with my choice of words, and not address any critique of Israel at all. That get my ire, the fact that people will focus on Hamas.
Doesn’t justify terrorism or warcrimes.
Edit: I will sit down and commiserate with you on the shit show from both sides for the last 80 years, but those issues should have been dealt with in the past and are not a justification for the present.
It doesn’t and Israel should stop committing them, as should Hamas.
All Israel are doing is ensuring the next wave of Hamas conscripts.
Who decides when we the statute of limitations is up on past transgressions of Israel?
Same people that decide that for the past transgressions of Terrorism Incorporated. Both sides need to stop, sit down and come to an agreement somehow. The only other way for peace is one Hamas sympathizers will NOT like.
As for ‘the next wave of Hamas conscripts’. That is inevitable. 80 ish years ago Israel did nothing but come into existance due to a UN mandate and all the nations around them declared war. Nothing Israel can do or not do will prevent Hamas and the like from growing except ceasing to exist and that is the genocide Hamas et al sympathizers are actually supporting.
Yeah, fuck you
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Yes you did. Though I’m not offended, I’m just letting you know you’re unwanted.
Again, fuck off. You’re a terrorist mouth piece, you make this community worse. Please go somewhere else.
no no. You’re the terrorist mouthpiece. I’m the one supporting a government just trying to protect its citizens from rampant murders/hostage takers.