The Terminator returns to theaters with 4K transfer…Will AI ruin another James Cameron film?

Mathew Plale


James Cameron’s The Terminator returns to theaters this week but some are rightfully concerned it will be another 4K disaster.

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He wasn’t kidding when he said he’ll be back. To mark the sci-fi classic’s 40th anniversary, The Terminator will be returning to theaters this summer courtesy of Park Circus, complete with a 4K restoration. And while any theatrical release of a fan favorite is certainly something to get excited for, those who have been following James Cameron’s other 4K releases might have reason to be cautious…

As we have reported on throughout the various releases of some of James Cameron’s best films, there has been quite a bit of controversy over the transfers of said movies. The main problem here is the use of AI to clean up the images, doing so to such an extreme degree that the films not only lose grain structure but authenticity. When viewing these films on their 4K home video releases, it’s so obvious that the image has been touched up to the point that they’re hard to enjoy. Sure, the action and storytelling isn’t changed but the distracting touch-ups throughout can easily pull you out of the experience. So, yes, it’s reasonable to be concerned about the upcoming 4K of The Terminator, which was approved by Cameron himself.

James Cameron certainly sees the benefits of AI, once saying, “As you go down levels of magnitude you see more and more patterns, and you realise that greater pattern, the grand pattern, is made up of all these kinds of fractal details that need to be there. And this is where I think AI can be helpful because it can fill in some of the some of those detail levels and allow us as artists to stay at a higher level.” But that right there is a perfect demonstration of just how AI can be misused when it comes to transfers, as relying on it for these minute details can easily serve as a shortcut that gets out of hand. And that’s how you end up with the horrendous transfers of great films like True Lies and Aliens, giving us pause on getting too excited for The Terminator.

But others have defended all of these. Film preservationist Robert Harris was kind enough to reach out to JoBlo about these issues, writing, in part: “There should be no problems with the original elements. The work performed was a re-visualization. An entirely new digital product, which (to varying degrees of success) appears to have achieved Mr. Cameron’s goals. If these were attempts at restoration, they would fail in all regards.” You can read his entire thorough defense here.

The Terminator returns to theaters on July 25th.

  • DominusOfMegadeus
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    4 months ago

    Why the author feels the 4K restoration of Aliens was anything besides the greatest transfer ever, I cannot fathom. The real red flag was the massively over-DNRed 4K version of T2

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      4 months ago

      I wish people would understand why the T2 4K release was so botched. According to Bill of The Digital Bits back in September 2021:

      In less good news on the 4K front, StudioCanal is apparently re-releasing their 4K Ultra HD edition of James Cameron’s Terminator 2: Judgment Day in a new 30th Anniversary Edition on December 6th, complete with fresh packaging and a new Endoskull replica. Unfortunately, it’s apparently still the same heavily DNR-scrubbed 3D master used for the image. I know people who’ve seen that original 4K scan and restoration who report that it looks fantastic. If StudioCanal would release that, I’d be happy to buy it. As it stands, I couldn’t even bring myself to review their original T2 4K, it was so horrifyingly bad. I mean, it’s embarrassingly bad. As in, it should never have been released, and the powers that be at StudioCanal should have known it was terrible. And the fact that they’re re-releasing it now without correcting it makes me doubt their judgment as a company. Even thinking about this is making me angry. Not only should T2 fans NOT buy this new 4K set, they should go on social media and politely request that StudioCanal fix this disaster for the new release.

      Don’t believe me that it’s bad? This is the message that appears when you play the film in 4K Ultra HD…

      Something is amiss here...

      Why the hell does a 4K Ultra HD release need a message about “This 3D Version” when it’s not actually in 3D? Because someone at StudioCanal got lazy (or didn’t know the difference) and grabbed the actual 3D master to use for their 4K release instead of the proper original 4K master. The problem with that, is that the 3D master was scrubbed of all film grain and fine image detail in order to make 3D post-conversion easier… WHICH IS THE LAST DAMN THING YOU WANT TO DO FOR AN ACTUAL 4K ULTRA HD RELEASE!

      Ugh.

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        4 months ago

        Even worse news (possibly), according to the source of the news, the tweet I have included below, the transfer was worked on by Park Road Post. The same company that worked on Let It Be, Aliens, True Lies…oh.