• stoy@lemmy.zip
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    4 months ago

    You’d accept possibly loosing the right to demonstrate or to hold a manifestation or protest?

    That is not the world I want to live in.

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      4 months ago

      Wut? It is supremely American to think you can only talk to politicians if you have money… and only because so many other people are willing to purchase a slice of their time.

      I can just walk to Peter Julian’s office and, assuming I’m not rude, talk to him about something that matters to me. I’ve had conversations with Peter Welch and Bernie Sanders - I used to board game with a state senator. It it might be hard to get a lunch date with Joe Biden but politicians spend the majority of their time just talking to folks… it’s only when the rich can use their money to monopolize time that shit breaks down.

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        4 months ago

        Those meetings you have had with politicians could absolutely be classified as lobbying, and would be made illegal if lobbying was outlawed.

        A company have the resources to make a smokescreen around meetings like that, making it harder to prove lobbyism, the lobbyist just happened to stay at the same hotel as the politician did, they even arrived a week before, and left two days after the politician arrived, it’s not like a meeting was set up on the one overlapping day, that would be crazy…

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          4 months ago

          Those meetings you have had with politicians could absolutely be classified as lobbying, and would be made illegal if lobbying was outlawed.

          It’s not just classified as lobbying, it’s litterally what Lobbying is about. Meeting politician to tell them that the environmental law reforms means that the factory will close or that the consumer need better protection regarding toxic chemical in their food is what Lobbyist do. It’s sometimes get even funnier when they change employer and therefore political side