Unless anyone knows another reason for this impressive increase in comments? Seems to roughly coincide with Sync launching. If thats the case, just goes to show the importance of good third party apps.
Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats
EDIT: Looks like a confusingly labeled graph and I think this is total comments. I have no idea why that spike could exist though.
I’m gonna blame it on all the sync haters just commenting about how sync sucks and why FOSS is so much better.
So, should we thank them?
I used Sync for Reddit for about 10 years but with the switch to the Fediverse I’ve adopted more of a FOSS mindset.
My initial reaction was vitriolic for no other reason than being disappointed due to my own expectations. I’m sure it’s still a great app and I still absolutely appreciate and respect lj; it’s just not for me anymore. But that doesn’t give me the right to force my opinion on others.
Ultimately I’m just happy we’re growing and I believe that’s what we should be focussing on.
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What do you mean there are advertisements in my free app?
lol. 3m comments, sync users and sync haters. Probably right.
Still better to have all the discourse on Lemmy instead of Reddit :).
I just don’t get the love for Sync. It was the best reddit app on Android like 10 years ago, but so many other apps surpassed it a while ago. Boost was smoother and had more options. As for iOS, Alien Blue and then Apollo were much better.
With lemmy, you’ve got great apps like memmy and Thunder that are imo better than Sync.
So you’re dealing with ads (or paying for closed source software) just to use a worse product that kinda goes against the FOSS philosophy Lemmy is built on.
Hey, you’re entitled to your opinion. I think it’s fair to say that most people here in the official sync community are going to disagree with you about it being a bad app. As for the FOSS philosophy, I genuinely don’t give a fuck. Cool that there are lots of FOSS alternatives but I like LJ and sync and have no issues supporting him. Nice that there are lots of options for different people.
I never said it was bad.
I just don’t get why people would use it over alternatives that have more features, are more stable, are free, and don’t include ads…
Completely agree, Thunder is SO much better and completely ad free.
Top 6 app behind X (still can’t get used to that stupid name) and before Facebook lite… not bad
Just call it Twitter like everyone else lol.
A. It’s more convenient and clear. B. It will probably piss off Musk.
Now B is a cause I can get behind…
I like the “corporations don’t get to have deadnames” take
It’s currently #10 in the Google Play store, under the “social” category. (First is TikTok.)
Depends on your region. I’m in Canada and it’s 6th here.
In my part of Canada, it’s ranked 8th. I might install if I after it’s more fleshed out, but I’m mainly waiting/hoping for boost to release.
The odd thing is, their screenshot is on the play store as well, you can see the logo next to installed apps. However, when I check on my phone, it matches yours.
Like @skye pointed out, I suspect it might indeed be based on region. I remember another thread where a user reported seeing Sync rated at 3 stars, whereas others reported 5 stars.
Ratings on play store are indeed localized (by region) but also by device type so it ensure that the ratings is relevant to your device (as the app experience can be extremely different on different devices running different Android version and/or Roms)
It also shows only ratings from the last of few last released versions in order to no skew the results with old versions of the app
Might be region dependent?
It doesn’t even show up in that list for me. Reddit shows up after top 50. I guess the list is made based on your geographic location as well.
And nary a hint of the Official Reddit app in that screenshot. What could’ve possibly happened??? Ya just hate to see it, or not see it I guess
Wow that’s impressive.
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I think it’s a good sign people are sticking around. A lot of people joined mastodon and instantly left because it was too much to figure out how to use. Lemmy is a lot better in its current state than where mastodon was during the first mass migrations.
I also think mastadon was trying to replace Facebook and twitter. A generalized assumption of those users is a lack of technical familiarity. Lemmy is the reddit alternative, and the users there tend to be way more technically proficient, or at least willing to learn.
Also there’s less friction to picking an instance. I’m not so worried about losing an anonymous account so I’ve made several on multiple instances
I’ve never cared about Twitter so I guess it makes sence that I don’t care about mastodon, lemmy on the other hand is a lot of fun
Totally agree joined Lemmy today and it feels just like Reddit with a few extra steps but oh well. Mastodon is it’s own beast to tackle
Impressive! Honestly I can totally understand this growth myself because it mirrors very well my own interactions here. When third party apps died I came here, tried a bunch of apps, made a bunch of comments and then didn’t really stick around because I couldn’t find a good enough app I liked.
Then when Sync released I have barely touched reddit and been 95% on Lemmy again.
I am still very impressed if Sync alone is responsible for 4 million additional comments per day though. That is rather staggering if it’s true.
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Good point. I’m unsure on the exact dates/times/timezones involved but it does sort of look like there was a good increase in comments maybe a day or so before Sync release. If that is not Sync though I’m struggling to think what else would cause it…
I think a couple apps restarted on Lemmy around the same time Sync came out. I know boost showed up, and I’ve seen a bunch of newly released app announcement threads in the last week.
Probably a combination of new and better apps. I know I basically just lurked until sync came out. It just feels familiar, and all the features I want are just here. The only thing I think I want, is to see how many down votes are on posts, but it’s literally the only thing I can think of.
Mastodon has 2M active users and has been steady for quite a while now. Fediverse is growing, maturing. Also Lemmy is trying to compete with Reddit, and Mastodon is trying to compete wuth Twitter. Lemmy and Mastodon are not actually competing with each other.
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apparently there’s meshing between the two fediverse projects, given that they use the same platform.
What are you referring to exactly? Sounds a bit like kbin but I get the sense that’s not what you’re talking about.
You can tag mastodon users on here, and they can follow us and reply when you create a post (either comment or post)
Mastodon users can also create posts on Lemmy communities by tagging the community itself with an @.
Do you know whether the same chart (or raw data?!?) exists but minus say purged instances? Is that even possible?
Not sure how useful it is, but you can choose various colums and get some further information here:
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
Interestingly there is some definite fuckery going on with the stats - one server has 80 users and 1.2 million comments. So this whole thread is probably rather pointless when stuff like that exists lol.
Thanks, that’s awesome!
In my case I was using a 3rd party app that was only barred from signing in to reddit, but I was still able to read and navigate the website until a few days ago. Now it seems that they have cut that access off so that drove me to create an account here.
Not surprising. Sync has made Lemmy a near-seamless change for me.
Sync was Reddit for me. So when Reddit decided to end all 3rd party apps, it was also the end of Reddit for me. Now with Sync for Lemmy it feels like I can pick off exactly where I left off and it feels great. Maybe even slightly better, because it feels like more people are interested in the comments you write and interact with you.
Same except for Apollo on iOS.
Glad to be here. Everything feels less shill-y and spammy. No more 500 of the same shitty comments in every thread
- Username checks out
- This deserves more upvotes
- “This”
- Came here to say this
- Made an account just to say I agree
- Lost it at ______
- Sigh *unzips*
Underrated Comment
I felt anger reading this. I think I just scrolled past it on reddit but lord almighty is it annoying
Can’t tell if this is ironic satire
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This
If I never see another goddamn unzip in my life I will die happy lmao
Agreed wholeheartedly.
And like someone posted about we’re not constantly policing ourselves with /s because the folks here are adults. On reddit it had gotten so vitriolic I didn’t post often because someone was going to jump you for having a differing opinion or to express their faux outrage that you liked cheese on broccoli or whatever.
Let’s just hope everyone stays understanding and able to keep minor differences unfought. I hope the option of defederation helps in that regard.
I watched that happen today, but they were arguing that Tim Martin of Wetherspoons fame is a nice guy.
I just made an account to reply to this lol. I finally bit the bullet and started using Lemmy a few days ago, the community here is of course much smaller than reddit but I would describe the comments here as being like the 1 in 10 comments on reddit that actually made me want to keep using the site. You don’t see as many one word throw away pun comments here, which I’m not necessarily against but it gets very grating over time.
I just downloaded relay yesterday, I was always a RIF user but using relay in “sure drawer” mode is a pretty similar experience. Everyone here seems very chill and nice
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Haha I meant to say Sync
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This is my experience as well. I haven’t found lemmy to be difficult to navigate on my computer, but on my phone it was a bit messy - but with sync back everything is as it was for me.
Same, long time SyncPro user here (10 years), I stopped using reddit in June, I spent all my July on lemmy with PWA, Jerboa, Connect, etc, there was so much problems in the beginning with crash, network errors, etc. it was a jungle, dozens of new instances per day, etc. It is all stable now, I used Jerboa the most. First day Sync for Lemmy was out I installed it, it was like I never left the old site, same layout, colours, functionalities, gesture, etc. Sync for Lemmy is a saviour for sure. I didn’t want the subscribe, I bought the noads version the minute it was out.
Yep. It’s like reddit never shat the bed and just spontaneously split into dozens of smaller sites.
Yeah, this.
I tried a bunch of apps when I moved over to Lemmy. Some were really good however Sync just felt like home. Instantly back to normal from a user experience perspective.
3.9 million of those comments are people complaining about the price or that it’s not FOSS.
Think a fair few comments on it’s price is warranted considering it’s 25 USD (where historically sync for reddit was significantly cheaper)
I mean you don’t have to pay for Ultra. Sync is mostly free. It’s just a few extra features that are premium, so what are you all complaining about.
25$ isn’t for ultra though but just to remove the ads, ultra is more expensive still
Ah I didn’t even catch that. Either way you can use sync without paying
What does Ultra get you?
No, no, no. You’re not allowed to complain about a price hike from £2 to £19 even though the apps are basically the same in UX and concept and LJ was able to push out a semi functional beta in a matter of weeks. Because complaining about it makes you a ‘baby’ apparently and everyone should be willing to part with £19 without blinking, to buy an app to use a service that has barely gotten off the ground and nobody knows will be around in a year at this point. I understand people are excited, and people want to support LJ (I have, loads, over the years) but this community doesn’t seem to even want a proper discourse about this and prefers to resort to shitty insults. Not sure that’s the kind of community I can see myself growing into, personally. To me, that asking price is insanely greedy and a bit delusional considering there are other strong alternatives already popping up. I’ve been loyal to Sync for 10 years I think, but times are tough money is tight, and nobody knows if Lemmy is going to succeed yet. We need big numbers on this platform and keeping costs down would surely aid in that effort. But he must have done his calculations so I respect his decision. If he doesn’t revert I’ll have to look at the alternatives.
No one is forcing anyone to pay for it. The app works fine without paying a dime.
Maybe we wanna buy it. But in my country lifetime of Ultra is 117 dollars. 117… dollars… Sync for Reddit cost me 4. Yes 4. I’m not even going to calculate percentage increase.
Sync for reddit Ultra was not $4 for lifetime. Removal of ads may have been. In the US its $99 for ultimate lifetime. $20 for lifetime removal of ads. Also the developer has already said he’s working on regional pricing.
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Its almost like having good third party apps can benefit a community! Who would have ever seen this coming! I sure didnt!
+1 from Infinity
Yeah, but 2 million of those comments where “Yay, Sync!” and the other 2 million were “REEE, Sync!”
5 were compliments on cute pets.
But were they cute?
It doesn’t matter. Even ugly pets are cute.
Well, where are said pets?? You can’t just say that without links.
Tho Genghis is the real kind of cute.
Cute pet.
He’s super sweet. He looks kinda homeless right now because I’ve been doing maintenance trims until I can get him into his groomer for a spa day.
My goodness, that face!
He manages to always look hungry and pathetic.
Same face, more dorito ear.
That’s a damn cute dog right there!
I love that we can see downvotes because next time someone is mean to me I’ll just think ‘you’re probably the guy who downvoted that cute dog’ and their opinion will mean nothing to me.
Aww. That’s a cute pet.
Yeah lot of talking about using sync vs foss. I think that giving people more options is good for lemmy as a whole at the end of the day.
Lemmy has become my main social media app already. Mastodon is painful to use for me. I just don’t like the Twitter format, and the lack of algo is unbearable.
Lol yeah I agree with Mastodon. I checked it out and it’s like…yep looks like Twitter, and I fucking hate Twitter, just feels like some weird celebrity and brand worship platform. The focus on Lemmy/Reddit at least is the content, and nobody really cares who posted or created it for the most part. Everyone is equal and content speaks for itself, it’s a far nicer concept to me.
Completely agree, I hate how it’s user worship centric like that.
By algo you meant algorithm? If that’s it then you can follow hashtags and you’ll have your feed more interesting for yourself with no algorithm involved.
I never used Twitter, but I am enjoying Mastodon a lot now that I follow my own stuff :)
When you follow hashtags you get all random useless tweets about that topic, here in Lemmy the upvote downvote, comment activity based algorithm is much better in filtering spam and junk
Yes, I am not saying Mastodon is better than Lemmy in that regard, but it is something at least, and you get an idea of what people to follow to boost your feed anyway.
I have seen some interesting things there that I don’t see on Lemmy, mainly speaking of some not that popular gaming or handhelds, but maybe this is an effect of a higher user base there than here.
Following hashtags isn’t remotely the same as having a for you algorithm. There’s nothing comparable to it on Mastodon right now. That is the whole point of what I was saying.
And probably never will, as I said I hardly used Twitter so I guess I never “tuned” my algorithm.
Well you didn’t miss out on much lol
This is me. I don’t know why I thought Mastodon would click for me when Twitter never did. I can’t bring myself to yell into the void. Maybe I’m just doing it wrong, idk. Much happier here.
Yeah definitely a different kind of social media. I come on here to browse the trending content and see what other people are saying about it. It’s content focused, rather then Mastodon where it’s focused on a person’s single post and gets easily buried among low effort posts.
Mastodon where it’s focused on a person’s single post
This is a good observation, it means that kind of social media (twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn) is much more egotistical and self-aggrandizing,which in turn explains why people like Musk and Trump are so enamoured with the format.
Thanks for putting down my vague impression into clear words. I couldn’t agree more!
I feel the same, I stopped using Twitter in 2010 when I realized I was neither funny nor popular and nobody cared about what I had for breakfast or how far I ran. Gave mastadon a try recently because I am interested in Fediverse but the feeling is same
Yeah honestly completely the same here, I had no clue how to actually find anything, and I far prefer engaging with communities, not people
And Mastodon has no top sorting or anything, is it was kinda useless to me
Never enjoyed the twitter style. But following hashtags and not people, made the content much more interesting atleast.
From the website (not the app) search a hashtag, select it and click follow.Use Moshidon or Megalodon. It adds those features that already exist on the website. Why the Mastodon app doesn’t have it is beyond me.
Even I kinda find it very hard to find good content on Mastodon.
It’s just a plain timeline which I’m not sure I like atm.
Sync definitely made me a regular on Lemmy
Same. And I started commenting in Sync since I kept getting errors when trying it in Jerboa.
It doesn’t work on Sync either. We don’t see your comments.
I still don’t know how this all works, but I’ll just keep blindly using it because I like Sync, and Laurence deserves our support.
You’ll catch on. It’s just like using Reddit, except each subreddit includes a web address in the name. Other than that, it’s mostly the same.
it’s people arguing about whether or not they use sync
… honestly tho I wouldn’t be surprised, I’m using it a lot more now 🤷♂️
I actually switched to sync too. But still think the prices are nuts and they need to come down for me to pay for it.
Would love to support the developer but definitely not at those prices. I block ads anyway, so I never see any.
Remember the instance owner too if you can :)
Too bad mine does not offer paypal…Too god damn many people assume all folks have a CC…
Most people do.
In 2019, there were approximately 22.8 billion credit, debit, and prepaid cards in use worldwide. This number is expected to reach 29.31 billion by 2023. The number of general purpose and private label debit cards increased 3.8% to 6.28 billion between 2019 and 2020. In 2021, the overall credit card in circulation reached 64 million. According to a Forbes Advisor survey from February 2023, 54% of consumers use a physical or virtual debit card and 36% of consumers use a physical or virtual credit card.
And the vast majority of those not using them are not valuable as customers.
How to block ads on sync?
I’ve been using DNS66 for years
I’m going back and forth still between Connect and Sync. Two reasons: can’t post from Sync yet and 2) lots of failed to load image bugs in Sync (which oddly enough, preview works fine for those images that failed to load).
The second one might be related to lemmy.world being dosed. I don’t get any issues (anymore) on feddit.de
No issues for me on my instance. Probably Lemmy.world rate limiting or something.
Waiting for the one time payment to get rid of ads. Paid it on reddit, will (probably) pay it on lemmy.
Wdym? There’s currently two one time payments. Ultra lifetime removes ads and, shockingly, “Remove ads” also removes ads
The money will come if the app is version 1.0 with all essential features. Not earlier. I do not like paying for stuff that is “promised”. Linus from LTT mentioned it many times and I stand behind it.
Same with promised DLCs and early access.
It’s in v23.x currently. Not v0.23. Nor is it mentioned anywhere on the app store or in the app that it’s still in beta and missing essential features.
You know what, you have a good point with that. I do that for other things too, so it only makes sense that it would still apply.
Bethesda’ Fallout 76 is a prime example of why it can be a bad idea to preorder. I wasn’t one of the people who did, but I remember that there was a pretty big outrage over what people ordered vs what they actually received. Before that happened, I was more naive and believed that some companies cared too much about their image to pull stunts like that. I don’t think people even got the correct bag that was supposed to come with the game. Nylon will never be the same as canvas.
Just the last 5 years feel like a speedrun by every major company to go to absolute hell.
It already exists. It’s $20.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/1677830
The money will come if the app is version 1.0 with all essential features. Not earlier. I do not like paying for stuff that is “promised”. Linus from LTT mentioned it many times and I stand behind it.
Same with promised DLCs and early access.
What features are promised exactly? As far as I can tell all the same features from the reddit app are here and working.
Well the sole reason now my account exists and has so many replies is coz of sync.
I would suspect it is another burst of Reddit users. I’ve just joined from Reddit because the third party app I used there (RiF) has stopped working this week. I can’t have been the only one whose app had zombied along for a month, died and then left me googling for Reddit alternatives.
It was the same for me
I really do wish RIF dev would make a lemmy app version. I absolutely loved that app for over a decade.
Likewise. When RIF died, so did my reddit habit. Lemmy has filled the void nicely, and better every day
yeah I came here because RIF finally stopped working
Boost still works for me (I’ve created a subreddit to moderate)
you can make sync look A LOT like RIF. Now for Reddit may be good for you but fully switching to lemmy is better
All third party apps went offline AFAIK.
Welcome!
Imagine when the dev adds the ability to post from the app
It still puzzles me why it was not added at release.
It is one of the most basic features for a social media app.
Because building features takes time, and sync is useful in it’s current state. Why not release it?
You got me wrong, I am happy with the release of Sync. I am just puzzled by the missing basic feature.
Because it’s not done yet?
It’s a core capability, but it’s a lot of work due to all the different types of thing you can post.
An app that can read posts and write comments is still useful without submitting posts, but an app that can submit posts but not read them is pretty useless. So, when you’re making stuff you do reading posts first, then you do writing comments, then you do submitting posts. That makes sense, right?
Let’s say it takes a few weeks to do each, and you’ve got to the stage where you’ve done reading and comments, but not submitting. That’s useful already! You’re not done, but what you’ve got is still useful for people and people want it, so why not release it at that point? Then carry on working and release the remaining features after.
Releasing as early as you can is good for everyone - the developer starts getting income for the work they’re doing, they learn about bugs and issues earlier in the development process and we get to start using it sooner. For me Sync without submitting is still better than the other apps, so I want to use it.
I hop over into Jerboa to make posts, can imagine the other sync users have probably been getting by using whatever app they were using before.
It’s probably a good thing though IMO, having a bunch of redditors storming in and making new threads about Sync could take over /all more than it has already
Not important. The amount of comments:posts is probably >10:1
So having comments being 10x as important than a post is kinda self explanatory.
But the sync app is still in beta so for 1.0 it will probably be done.Still in beta but already wanting people to spend money to remove ads or get Ultra
The dev needs to eat. You’re not forced to give him money, stop complaining.
I’m not saying the prices are too high or not justified. I just don’t think you can excuse missing features by saying it’s still in beta when at the same time full pricing is in place.
I’ll be honest I didn’t even notice it was missing until I read this thread, but I’m not too bent out of shape about it
Let’s see what you would do if you want to make this a full time job and would want to buy groceries.
I give you ~6 months until your savings are burned through amd you decide that you need to charge a bit or open donations.
