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No, just a higher percentage of em. Which is exactly what happened.
On the other hand, I’ve heard a lot of antivaxxers proclaim everyone who got the shot would be dead by last year.
Also, that’s not the fucking point. The vaccination protects everyone, even if you aren’t at a high risk of death from COVID. Every infection is an opportunity for mutation, and every vaccination brings us closer to herd immunity.
They aren’t real big on “facts”, those who are saying the opposite… It’s more like a “feels like” statement, which they repeat b/c someone on the TV or radio said it, therefore it must be true.
They also aren’t big on doing things for the sake of other people.
Omg that’s what really blew me away, all these “Pro-Life” people, some who are legit or at least believe they are e.g. they would adopt kids to prevent them growing up not taken care of, basically killing people, more or less knowingly, and they neither care nor even so much as (choose to) see the contradiction.
the kind of pro-life that’s perfectly happy for women to die trying to give birth to dead babies, but incensed that anyone could make them wear a face mask for 3 minutes.
yeeaaah. you know the ones.
We’re already at a point where almost everyone has either been vaccinated or infected, but neither prevents you from getting sick again or from transmitting covid without realizing you are sick. IIRC the herd immunity stuff people were talking about at the beginning was being hopeful that transmission could be reduced enough to stop the virus from sustaining itself in the population, but it turned out to be too infectious for that to work. Not to say it isn’t worth getting vaccinated to reduce your own chance and severity of illness but at this point will it really be making that much difference in how many people get sick?
Yes, a thousand times yes.
Pardon me for being uncivil, but your ignorance is violence. People like you are the reason people like me (immunocompromised) have died. Even years after the first infection, in the face of mountains of data and the advice of experts, you’re still sharing moronic, anri-intellectual talking points spread by conservatives to help them stay in power.
A vaccine does not eliminate your chances of getting sick, it reduces your chances of getting sick. Herd immunity was both achievable and observed in communities that weren’t run by dipshits. You do not remember correctly.
If everyone had actually gotten vaccinated, it would have saved countless lives and shortened the pandemic. We know this because there are countries that handled the pandemic better than we did, saw fewer deaths, recovered more quickly, and did not experience second- or third-wave variant outbreaks.
I think you’re making a lot of uncharitable assumptions about what I’m saying, which definitely isn’t that it would have been useless to get everyone vaccinated sooner. Taking all available precautions to reduce transmission is of course what should have been done.
I remember people talking about herd immunity as an argument that we should avoid any lockdowns so everyone gets infected and get it over with sooner, because they will then have enough resistance to end the disease in the population. What I mean by ‘it turned out to be too infectious’ is that the pandemic now continues despite most people having gotten sick, not that efforts to reduce transmission did nothing to help save people.
The main point I’m wondering about here is more about the current role of vaccines, now that almost everyone has an immune system that is familiar with covid. I’m not even asking about this rhetorically, just skeptical that the same logic still applies that did earlier.
We aren’t going for full herd immunity any more since that horse has bolted, but there’s really no scientific doubt that continued vaccination is reducing the spread and the severity of infections. It’s not difficult to find the many studies that have been published on this.
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Your ignorance is a disease and the world is worse off when you speak.
It didn’t stop the spread but there have been several studies showing that it reduces spread. This logic of “if the vaccine doesn’t 100% eliminate the disease it isn’t worth anything” is characteristic of antivax thinking, but the vaccines have been proven to reduce infection rates, disease severity and the risk of long COVID, and cumulatively this improves outcomes for many people around the world.
It will keep going as the virus mutates and vaccinations lapse.
Yep, a whole bunch of the Q Anon adjacent folks, mostly evangelical extremist conspiracy theorists at this point, were calling the vaccine a ‘clotshot’ and a bioweapon, and were actually claiming it would kill basically everyone who got it within a year.
Lots of overlap with the people that think 5g is a mind control weapon.
Their own party sacrificed hundreds of thousands of people for bullshit.
By his anti Vax logic…
It’s been three years
Shouldn’t all the vaccinated be dead by now?
What a moron
I thought it was meant to be the other way around. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yes, still waiting for the Bill Gates microchips to kick in from the vaccines. Maybe its the win 11 upgrade delaying stuff…
Wait, or maybe the chip needs reboot and manual fix after Crowdstrike.
Has anyone reported blue light dots under their skin during nighttime?
That’s not how it works.
Also, it’s been three years, should all the vaccinated be zombies by now?
Who the fuck ever said that the vaccine was necessary for the survival of most of the population?
For most of us this was about contributing to herd immunity for the benefit of those who were at risk of permanent injury or death from covid, and about lowering the personal risk of going through a bad infection yourself.
Stupid people. Like Elon.
I would assume the screenshot is photoshopped.
I mean, I would, but by the musk of it… it smells legit.
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Ricky?
Don’t lose that number.
its funny muski thinks he would be on the side of tyler durden. Absolute fool.
He is essentially the perfect inverse of Durden.
Musk is an immensely wealthy capitalist while Durden eschews basically all material possessions beyond what is immediately useful toward the purpose of destroying the world’s financial system.
Musk attempts to revolutionize all kinds of technologies and make them less costly to allow for more widespread and common proliferation, whereas Durden believes in basically a return-to-nature kind of anarcho-primitivism: he hates how technology leads to dull, boring, monotonous, safe lives.
Finally, Durden is actually immensely charismatic to the point of being a cult leader of basically a secret network of terrorists, relishes in near total anonymity and would likely never want wide public credit for his actions… whereas Musk is probably one of the most awkward, poorly spoken dorks who has ever managed to gain an extremely public cult following, basically by promising impossible nonsense, who seeks and needs constant validation and fame.
EDIT: As a further illustration of point 2, if Musk ever dies in a situation where he decides to not pilot the vehicle he is in, it will be because the massive amount of money he has spent to develop a self driving car will prove faulty; a victim of overconfidence in his on wealth, his own leadership, technology. He would be an unwitting victim of his own failed self and worldview.
If Durden would have died in the ‘Let Go’ scene, he would have been completely fine with the random nature of the universe taking its course, and basically would have enjoyed the sense of being ‘truly alive’ for the duration he was dancing so close to death.
Shouldn’t I be 3 times more autistic/magnetic/gay?
the vaccine did not make me measurably more autistic than I already was or give me cool magnetic superpowers, I demand a refund of the $0 I spent to get it
Send your bank details for a refund
ah but how it affect your sexual preferences?
I uh, um,
The "vaccine will kill you in x years, government conspiracy " line of logic makes no sense when the vaccine is against a deadly disease.
“Republican’s buy sneakers too.”
- Michael Jordan
I have no clue why Tesla sales dropped 45% last quarter. Keep insulting literally half of the country. I hope that works out for you Elon.
Somone ask him where our spaceships are. Aren’t we supposed to be on mars, elon? Where are our ships, elon?
And the level 5 self driving cars.
Elon really raises my self-confidence
Spoken like a piece of human garbage that thinks all the deaths during the pandemic are not worth remembering.
It’s been three years… shouldn’t all the vaxed be dead or have 5g now?
I’m so so tired of hearing about this jackass. Can we unsubscribe yet
No, they died on year one.
