• ghost_laptop@lemmy.mlOP
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    1 year ago

    Under no circumstanced whatsoever China imprisons as much people as the US, this without taking into account that the 13th Amendment basically legalises slavery as a punishment to crime, which is where the US gets a lot of free labour. A shining beacon of democracy.

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      Um, okay. That doesn’t really address my comment though.

      I’m not going to sit here and pretend the US doesn’t have an absurdly high per Capita incarceration rate or that there aren’t better examples of democratic governments in the world.

      I was just pointing out that it makes sense how low the “official” statistics are when they don’t include, for example, any of the Uighurs in reeducation camps.

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        Show me one first party credible source that gives real numbers about the people incarcerated in China in reeducation camps. There are none, they all point to Radio Free Asia and Adrian Senz. Were the terrorist/extremists attacks[1][2][3][4][5] carried out by Uyghur people controlled in the best way? No, but it is by far one of the best responses I’ve seen in the globe. Compare that to what the West has done. Reeducation camps have helped reduce extremism in the region to the point where we don’t see these attacks anymore, keep in mind it has been a tactic used in the region (the Middle East) employed by US forces since Afghanistan became a socialist country in order to destabilise the region, which later produced the whole 20 something years of occupation by US imperial forces in various countries, that to this day are still present.

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          I would imagine genocide is effective at stopping terrorism, but I don’t think it is “one of the best responses”.

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            I you believe this is genocide you are delusional and can’t even think what you believed happened in Afghanistan then, ultragenocide?

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              A war happened, sure it may have been awful but I don’t think it qualifies as genocide. China is an authoritarian hellhole and it baffles me why you would think their motives are pure.

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                A war didn’t happen, the US Empire invaded a country, murdered its citizens, steal their resources, raped and torture civilians and a lot of other disgusting things, I don’t understand what kind person thinks that the murder of 52,893 soldiers and 46,319 civilians, if we go by with official numbers, is not by any means a genocide. They did the same they have do to Argentina, Mexico, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Chile, Cuba, Bolivia, Laos, Vietnam, Korea, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Iran, Congo, Thailand, Libya, Panama, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Pakistan, Syria, and countless others. Did I mentioned you they invaded many of these countries multiple times and committed and murdered thousands of thousands of people? No, they were not wars, if that’s your justifications, they were invasions where they secured either oil, or overthrowned or coup d’etated political figures that were against their rules world order. The US is an authoritarian fascist Empire and it baffles me why would you think their motives are pure.