TIL that in the work, An Instinct for Dragons, an anthropologist argues that the universality of dragons across human societies is due to evolutionary reasons, with common primate predators being merged into a hybrid monster.

  • @hakase
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    741 month ago

    I still have deep-seated, instinctual nightmares of the merg.

  • @[email protected]
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    1 month ago

    Ha! I wrote a paper about the meaning of dragons for a undergrad anthropology college course in 2003 and I cited the heck out of this book. Also Mythical Beasts edited by John Cherry.

    • rhsJack
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      31 month ago

      well we’re waiting_judgesmail.gif I mean…dude. You gotta tell us what you got on the paper. How’d you score?

      • @[email protected]
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        41 month ago

        Oh wow. No one ever asks about my undergrad grades anymore. It was a study-abroad in London, UK at Goldsmith’s college. I got whatever a UK “D” was at the time, a 55 or something. Thankfully I came with a study-abroad program guide who gave us a “US Grade Equivalent” sheet at the start which said that was a passing grade and I didn’t worry about it. For the course “Animals In Medieval Art and Literature” which became 3 credits of Anthropology at my local state university in the United States toward a Bachelor’s in Science the following year. I entered grad school 4 months after that in an unrelated field and never used this knowledge for anything but trivia since.

  • Lvxferre
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    Does he offer an explanation on why dragons are winged in plenty myths? EDIT: raptors, illiterate me. Raptors.

    • @[email protected]
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      481 month ago

      TL;DR- dragons are what happen when you mash together big cats, big snakes, and big birds of prey

    • @[email protected]
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      151 month ago

      The linked article mentions that one of the predator types merged into the dragon is raptors (as in birds of prey, not velociraptors)

    • @[email protected]
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      51 month ago

      They’re big and scary enough today, and in the past they were even bigger and scarier.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haast's_eagle

      Relationship with humans

      Some believe that these birds are described in many legends of the Māori mythology, under the names pouākai, Hakawai (or Hōkioi in the North Island).[52][53] According to an account given to Sir George Grey—an early governor of New Zealand—Hōkioi were huge black-and-white birds with yellow-green tinged wings and a red crest. In Māori mythology, Pouākai would prey and kill humans along with moa,[54][55][56] which scientists believe could have been possible if the name relates to the eagle, given the massive size and strength of the bird.[52][57] However, it has also been argued that the “hakawai” and “hōkioi” legends refer to the Austral snipe—in particular the extinct South Island species.[58]

      For context, Haast’s eagle was about twice the size of today’s Harpy eagle, which itself looks like it came out of a nightmare. See photos at https://www.demilked.com/giant-bird-harpy-eagle/

      • @[email protected]
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        41 month ago

        It was endemic to New Zealand, which was first inhabitated much too late for this bird to become the common trope that dragons have been in many cultures.

  • Drusas
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    151 month ago

    It seems more likely that it comes down to fossils.

  • @mindbleach
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    31 month ago

    Overly Sarcastic Productions argues that the issue is mostly ‘why are so many lizard-ish creatures lumped under one label?’

    The video ends by pointing out, if they were just what made people flinch, there’d be a lot more spider involved.