And that justifies the double standard?

It absolutely does. A huge part of Linux’s whole schtick is that open and community-sourced software is more compatible and just plain better than proprietary offerings. Linux is better, and it can handle being held to a higher standard.

Who decided this is where the goalpost is, except for you?

Yeah, uh, that’s kinda how opinions work. There is no objective measurement of what “VR readiness” means - it’s going to be an arbitrary division no matter who is deciding where the line is. I just think that arbitrary division should include the set of headsets that just a few years ago constituted at least 10% of the market as measured by Steam alone, if not significantly higher once other proprietary storefronts that these headsets were aimed at are included.

That’s kind of a disingenuous citation, since WMR has been officially discontinued by Windows for over a year, and you can’t install it on any new machines, so of course its official use numbers are currently incredibly low.

Five years ago, however, WMR was more than 10% of the VR market (and that’s not even including all of the other proprietary storefronts that these headsets were aimed at), and I’d bet that a lot of people, like me, would still use it if it were better supported. Plus that’s a lot of e-waste that could be reused and repurposed if we could get 3rd party software to work.

Literally the only reason I still dual-boot my gaming PC is because I have to boot into window$ any time I want to use my VR headset, so, while I would absolutely love it if Linux were VR ready, that’s unfortunately just not the case.

Counter-counter point: some VR is working. It’s not working for a significant portion of VR hardware, so it is not VR ready.

Windows isn’t ready for much of anything these days, so I’m not really sure why you’re trying to make that comparison with Linux, an OS that prides itself on openness and getting an insane variety of hardware working on it.

I agree that “VR ready” doesn’t have to include every single headset, but that’s pretty disingenuous when a significant number of VR headsets use(d) WMR. Linux will not be VR ready until WMR is working.

Android doesn’t pride itself on its incredible hardware compatibility to the same extent that Linux does.

I realize that I am in no way entitled to other people’s labor to get WMR working on Linux, of course, but until this significant category of VR headsets does work on Linux, it is not VR ready.

What’s your point?

“Get VR working and it will be.”

“It is!”

“No, it is for your specific hardware and use case.”

That microsoft didn’t enable the necessary software components to run windows mixed reality HMDs on linux?

No - that’s a given. It’s that nobody has working third party software for my hardware yet, hence the “VR isn’t ready on Linux yet” statement.

The reverbs never natively supported any open standards like SteamVR or OpenXR.

I know.

WMR headsets are the ones that have been the hardest to get going with open VR systems like Monado, but that doesn’t mean that hardware that implemented sane standards isn’t already working great, which it is.

I know.

That said, WMR is partially working at this time.

I know.

Bottom line, if you use something that is actually supposed to work, it does. If you don’t, then yeah, the volunteer-created hacks to get things to work are still in progress.

I know.

My VR hardware is still not working, and Linux is clearly not “VR ready”.

My HP Reverb G2 V2 isn’t.

Radical Psycho Machine (RPM) Racing for the SNES!

Fun fact, this was one of the few games that played entirely in the SNES’ High Resolution graphics mode!

Already answered, it doesn’t matter, and it doesn’t matter.

Because sovereign nations have the right to decide who is and who is not allowed across their borders, and they also have the right to take reasonable measures to expel those who are present in their country without permission.

Not quite sure what the past 8 years have to do with the Panamanian government, but I am certainly in the “I’m not going to assume that Panama of all places is running a concentration camp until I see some actual evidence of it” camp, especially when they probably don’t want these migrants anyway, and don’t seem to have a reason to vindictively mistreat them like the US does.

Source that the Panamanian location is a concentration camp? Random Twit-heads don’t count.

Australia makes up like 7% of the world’s habitable land, and even more of the habitable land that could be inhabited by reptiles in the first place, so I guess that’s not too surprising.

They sent people to the jungle without shelter.

I suppose that’s possible, but Imma need a source for that claim, because it’s definitely not in the article I read. That seems more like the sort of blind, knee-jerk reaction the twit-head in the pic is intending to elicit with their inflammatory one-liner.

Do you really think they plan to meet all of their needs?

All of the needs required of a brief detainment before repatriation? Yeah, I see no reason why Panama wouldn’t do that, especially since they probably want these people out of Panama as soon as possible.

And if they are just doing their best to cope with the migrants, then the US is responsible for sending them to a place that could not handle them.

They seem to be handling them just fine. I agree that the US sending them there was a dick move, and probably an attempt at strongarm tactics on Trump’s part, but Trump being a dick doesn’t suddenly mean that Panama is running a concentration camp, as the talking head is asserting to make people angry enough to engage en masse with their “content”.

Whether the US is following its laws or not has literally nothing to do with whether this Panamanian location is a concentration camp, which is the talking head’s claim and the entire point of this comment chain.

The US is calling the shots, you admitted they might not be following the law, and yet you expect the US to follow the rules they create and break? That’s a very niave outlook on global politics.

It would be, if, once again, the specific day-to-day operation of these camps had anything whatsoever to do with the US, which it doesn’t seem to.

Please read carefully this time:

This is not a US camp. This location is constructed and operated entirely by the sovereign government of Panama, and we have no evidence that the Panamanian government is doing anything that could be construed as being a concentration camp. If anything, Panama is likely being forced by the US to detain these people against their will, giving them even less incentive to mistreat them, especially since these camps are now international news.

Lol, not that controversial - Dalton is my favorite Bond after Brosnan, and both of his movies are in my top 5 (actually I think The Living Daylights might be number 6 on my list - can’t remember exactly).

I think Tomorrow Never Dies and The World Is Not Enough are hugely underrated. TND is way ahead of its time and almost prescient on a modern rewatch, and TWINE does a fantastic job with its twist Bond girl villain (even if it was the start of the absolutely horrible trend of forcing M into the middle of every plot going forward). Die Another Day is pretty bad though, which is unfortunate, as it gets off to a great start.

But I agree with you - the Craig films are just not Bond movies, and other than Casino Royale, I basically never rewatch them.

I’m pretty sure it’s also lined with inflammatory rhetoric, so I think I’ll just keep reading original sources and waiting for facts that are supported by evidence.

The fact that people will be leaving the Panamanian camp as soon as next week, according to the article, meaning that it really does seem intended to be temporary.

Also, Imma need a source on your claim that they’re exposed to the elements. Meeting their material needs is perfectly appropriate for the sort of temporary situation being described.

Ehh, Bond movies haven’t been good for 20 years at this point anyway. At least I can just start ignoring the series entirely now.

Ehh, Bond hasn’t been worth watching for 20 years now anyway. At least now I have a reason to start completely ignoring the series.

The US allows legal asylum. Whether the US is correctly following their own laws with regard to legal asylum is a completely separate issue from whether or not this Panamanian site is a concentration camp, as the talking head is asserting in an incredibly emotionally manipulative manner.

As I’ve mentioned elsewhere in this thread, people here seem really intent on conflating their own thoughts on immigration in general with the actual situation being described in the article.

I’ve always kinda sucked at dodgeball. Good at throwing, good at catching, reeeally bad at dodging.