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    3 months ago

    it appears not to be emails.
    also, clinton was using a private email server for government business, illegally. Those emails were subpoenaed and then she had them deleted and wiped…

    it’s quite different.

    leaked confidential material from inside the Donald Trump campaign, including its report vetting JD Vance as a vice presidential candidate. So far, each has refused to reveal any details about what they received.

    i think if there was a story they’d cover it. but if it’s just campaign information, there would be no point except to just try to harm him.

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      3 months ago

      They did not wipe all the emails. Her team sorted through to send only the ones which were subpeonaed, which is what you are supposed to do.

      And the DNC hack is what the original post probably meant, but people mix all this stuff up. Those were published on Wikileaks and generated super productive controversies, such as pizzagate.

      And it isn’t illegal per se to use private email. It’s extremely common, but should be cracked down on. A big problem with it is age. Try telling your grandma she has to use a different email when she contacts you about certain topics.

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        i didn’t say all, but all of the emails were subpoenaed. all of the wiped ones were done so illegally.

        the DNC hack did show that they weren’t democratic, they were trying to hurt Sanders (with “Bernie Bros” and bullshit), they intentionally bolstered Trump to make republicans look crazy (oops), and colluded with Clinton to give her the nomination.
        There was a lawsuit over this, but they lost because the DNC never actually promised to be Democratic… it’s just in the name.

        and it IS illegal, per se, to use a private email server for government purposes. Always has been.
        Nixon was impeached for deleting 8 minutes of his own personal audio recordings… as those records were subpoenaed, because you can’t keep any kind of private records of you conducting government business….

        you’re just wrong about everything.

        the FBI determined they did commit crimes, but there was no “criminal intent”. (which is only required of rich people, apparently).

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          Nixon was impeached for deleting 8 minutes of his own personal audio recordings… as those records were subpoenaed, because you can’t keep any kind of private records of you conducting government business….

          That is such a gross oversimplification of why Nixon was impeached I don’t even know where to start.

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          3 months ago

          Criminal intent is required for all crimes except those which are strict liability.

          And you really ate the propaganda on the rest, not sure what else to say.

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            3 months ago

            plain facts aren’t propaganda…
            although i don’t know what “on the rest” means….
            they used BleachBit to make it intentionally unrecoverable. (it writes “bleachbit” over and over unless you change the default settings).
            there was criminal intent.
            she claimed to only have destroyed personal emails, but some of the recovered ones ones were in fact state business.
            it’s pretty crucial for an informed democracy that we at least have records of what the government does….
            i don’t think they should have “locked her up”, or that she should of got the democratic nomination or would’ve been a very good president….
            but she’s still better than trump in every conceivable way….
            the fact that the DNC tried to shoehorn in such a shitty candidate, and handed the election to cheeto hitler should be seen as a huge crime.
            buttery males wasn’t even her biggest problem.