• Tb0n3
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      4 months ago

      Suicide and gang wars are the source of you’re actually interested.

      Look at your source and sort by per capita statistics, because no shit a 350 million population country will have high total stats in any number of things while having lower per capita.

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        The US is 4% of the world’s population and 14.85% of the World’s Gun Deaths.

        More than 3 times one would expect if there wasn’t an issue.

        Suicide and gang wars are the source of you’re actually interested.

        Okay, let’s try to keep guns out of the hands of people in gangs or with mental health issues.

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          My dude, it’s already illegal for criminals to use guns and crime, so what is another law going to do? Felons cannot own guns and many criminals are felons but a lot of them still find guns. What is a law going to change about that? Death by suicide is a primarily male problem. Are we going to ban men? Just because somebody used a gun to kill themselves doesn’t mean they were not going to do it in some other way.

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            My Dude, gun crime is higher in states that have less restrictive gun control laws, and the cities that neighbour them. If it’s harder for criminals to buy guns then there will be fewer criminal with guns. It’s not complicated.

            “Gun crime is caused by gang!”
            “Okay, let’s try to stop gangs getting guns.”
            “IMPOSSIBLE!”

            It’s really not, you just don’t want a solution because the problem excuses your big pew pew toy.

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              “IMPOSSIBLE” yes. Without killing a fundamental right which built the nation it is impossible. If there’s the political will to do it then ces’t la vie, but my job, and the job of others who care and understand the situation is to call out the politicians hiding their goal of banning guns behind euphemisms and dog whistles. If they can repeal the 2nd then fucking do it. If not then fuck off on more gun control. That’s the only thing I don’t like about most Democrat candidates. I agree with most everything else. It still makes it difficult to support them though.

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                4 months ago

                I just wanted to thank you for bringing this perspective to the conversation even though you’re getting absolutely blasted for it. That’s a great comic too - I’m saving that for later.

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                If they can repeal the 2nd then fucking do it. If not then fuck off on more gun control.

                So you’re fine with them repealing the 2nd?

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                  4 months ago

                  I wouldn’t like it, but that’s the only path for it to be legal. Every other gun control is unconstitutional.

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                    Is this what we call a mask off moment? If the people with their toy guns weren’t trying to be sneaky a two-faced about it we’d have a real outcome based on what the public wants, not “ItS iN tHe CoNsTiTuTiOn!” emotional arguments hiding their desire to not talk about it, not discuss it, and not come up with a solution because any solution might mean they have fewer toys to play with.

                    At no point is the existence of the 2nd amendment an argument that people should be allowed unrestricted access to guns (Appeal to Authority), and the fact that it is illegal for convicted felons to own guns means having reasonable restrictions is not a violation of the constitution.