I’m not talking about the consumption of animals here, to be clear. What I’m talking about is spending days and a bunch of money planning to kill something, doing the killing, and skinning/eviscerating what was killed, and often displaying the stuffed corpse. Hunters and fishers refuse to admit they’re obsessed with taking pleasure in killing something.

Miss me with the “tradition” stuff, it’s just peer pressure from the dead and a fallacious argument. Don’t tell me it’s to eat, like I said, I’m not talking about the consumption here, so please prove to me you are literate by not bringing up that point. And don’t tell me you’re respectful to the animals you kill; I don’t believe the planning, stalking, and killing is a good way to show respect.

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    This is kind of a weird argument to make. Are specifically talking about only hunting/ fishing where the animal is killed and not consumed in any way?

    Since I’ve personally never seen that as someone who’s been hunting a couple times and around people who hunt.

    And how do you not expect people to bring eating animals when that’s basically half the purpose. People don’t just go around hunting without the intent to utilise the meat.

    Also do you kill roaches or worms etc. In which case what makes the thoughtless killing of one better than the other.

    Also I personally love it as an outdoor activity which I rarely get.

    Personally I don’t see anything immoral with taxidermy either.

    Upvoted for actual unpopular opinion tho.

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      It was more to preemptively stop the people that bring up that they do it for the purposes of consumption. Like you can consume meat without hunting and many people do and just deal with the cognitive dissonance of somebody else doing the killing. Actually going out to hunt is a much more active choice and not something you can do without getting gear, maybe a license, and making time for it.

      As for taxidermy, I guess it’s just an extension of the planning/killing/cleaning into even more thinking about it, remembering it, celebrating it. Otherwise, it’s pretty goth and I’ve got no issue with it.

      There were some Buddhists that wore masks to avoid breathing in insects and accumulating karma (though iirc most sects now say insects don’t cause karma that way). But there were also Buddhists warriors that justified killing people as helping the dead get to their next reincarnation faster. But yeah, why do people think cats deserve better treatment than chickens or cows or deer. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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        Cats are spayed and neutered at the humane society to protect their population. I’ll give you one guess as to what open-season is about.

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          Yeah, I’m not saying there’s not legitimate cases for population control. It’s the people and their hobby I have opinions about. Would it be weird for people to go hunt cats, pose by their corpses for pictures, etc., like is done with deer if it was because cats impact the environment when it comes to bird population? If not, why bother spaying and neutering instead of just killing?

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            The Blacktail jackrabbit is invasive where I’m at, but rabbits in general are free game. You can find YouTube videos of teenagers going out and taking them.

            The kill isn’t glorified, and the meat consumed.